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hello, could someone tell me if these marks are the result of a die clash, then a die rotation and another die clash ? There is a die rotation from obverse to reverse of about 5 degrees.  |
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Your hypothesis about the sequence of the Die Clashes sounds reasonable. Double Die Clashes can be found on the 1943, 1944 and 1945 Fifty Cent (not too often though) coins, but I have never seen any with the amount of separation that is evident on your image. Nice find.
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Do you collect Varieties in the George VI Fifty Cent Series?
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Nice double die clash : if you can send a picture of the full reverse, it will be nice !
Nothing on obverse ?
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Yes, I'm collecting Geo VI halves, with the price of silver moving up some nice halves are showing up in the dealer's bullion bins. Seems like '43 was a good year for d/clashes, d/cracks, and date varieties.
The obverse has some die clash marks under the chin, back of the neck, bridge of the nose and crown of the head. But since this is only a VF these marks are not that clear and I don't see any signs of double clashes on the Obv.
Still learning how to upload images (explains the pic I took) and can't seem to get the full picture downsized to upload. The original pic was about 640 kb and had to crop it with Paint. Took the original with Optex 200X digital magnifier.
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Pillar of the Community
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you reduce the image quality to around 70% as a jpeg in order to get the size down or use a hosting service and the forum software IMG tags to host a larger picture elsewhere at a free image hosting site.
I have a lot of these fifty cent pieces, a lot of rolls of them actually I've just started going through and the variety and errors are endless. I have to wonder if they were all drunk or something by the time they got to the fifty cent lines... hehehhee long martini lunches at the mint..
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OK,za75 , here is the full reverse @ 75% of size(thankyou Ugly).  |
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 -west-canuk- That's a very nice example of the 1943 Wide date, far 3! Nice job with the picture, very nice double die clash! |
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commoncents, I thought this was a near 3. Did one of the Charlton catalogue years have a back section that dealt with half dollars like the 2010 deals with silver 5 cents ?
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Good job on the photo. Looks like a near 3 to me, what throws people off is that the vertical and/or horizontal alignment changes vs the book examples on the three as there are many, many minor varieties. But overall it's a ND. Close up the area on WC's coin  Edited by Ugly
04/02/2011 10:41 pm
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-- -west-canuk- No conjecture! There are only three 43! ---Looking at the 2011 Charlton! Well I'm going to go by the book as that is our guide and if you look closely there are 3 points that tell me that this is a (WD-FAR 3)1943 50 cent;-- -1- The bottom tale of the 3 is clearly pointed bellow the bottom of the 4 compared to the (narrow/near) which is pointed to. -- -2- The bottom end of the back side of the 3 is touching the blades of grass were the near is farther and has more space. -- -3- The hoof is pointed a little bellow the center of the middle curve of the back side of the 3 as opposed to the near which clearly points slightly above center. [URL="http://img215.imageshack.us/i/scanimage002k.jpg/]  [/URL] Edited by commoncents13
04/09/2011 05:52 am
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Since the last two digits on most 1940's era (except for 1940)George VI Fifty Cents are usually entered on a per Die basis, there are many different configutations for the 4 and the 3 on the 1943 George VI Fifty Cent coins (over a 100 Dies used). The Charlton catalog only provides a representative Wide and Narrow Date. There are also more than twenty different 3/3 double punches for 1943 and the 1943 Doubled Die that ICCS has been putting on some of their gradings is actually a 3/3/3 (triple punch).
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04/09/2011 08:00 am
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I'm totally with pginrh.
Many, many versions of these dates. Charletons is a limited resource where you have more than a handful of anything but even they mention this fact.
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Ugly... Please send me an E-Mail... I cannot yet use the CCF Site E-Mail service.
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pginrh, no one can email you until you have fifty quality posts unfortunately. If you are on another forum let me know which one.
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Good points everyone. I was basing my call on the distance from the top of the 3 to the top of the four, but it's not all black and white since there are so many variations on each variety. javascript:insertsmilie('  ') I have seen reference to a MD (mid or medium) based on a vertical line across the 3 and how much of the 4 intersects that line. Check out http://www.calgarycoin.com/modern/cd50cent.htm |
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