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Went to the bank today and picked up 2 boxes of cents to search over Good Friday. I opened the first box and it was full of customer wrapped rolls. As I took them out of the box I noticed that each roll was marked with a date of the coins in each roll and a date the customer had received the coins. I figured that this would be a non productive box for my roll hunting goals. I opened the first roll dated 2000 and to my surprise inside the wrapper was a clear original mint wrapped roll of 2000 cents. COOL! Now I'm curious. I opened each roll and to my delight all but 8 rolls were original clear mint rolls wrapped in a paper roll wrapper. The total tally is: 2000 x 16 1999 x 9 1998 x 10 1997 x 3 1996 x 2 The remaining rolls were also solid dates but not mint wrapped rolls. They were circulated solid date rolls from 1989 x 1, 1991 x 1, 1995 x 4, 1996 x 1 & 1997 x 1. Seven of the nine rolls from 1999 have a black substance in two spots on the inside of the plastic wrappers. It looks like maybe something was on the machinery the created the clear plastic rolls prior to the coins being packaged in them. The markings are in the same spot for each of the affected wrappers. Picture included.  I decided to crack open one of the rolls to see what it is. Most of the substance is on the wrapper itself. The coins in the area of the substance have some black on the rim with very little on the face of the coins. IN the roll that I cracked open was a coin that has damage. If I did not open the roll myself I would of said it was PMD but since I opened the mint roll...I'm not sure what has caused the damage. Here are some pics.       Any ideas of what might of caused this?  Now...what should I do with the rolls. Keep them. Crack them and search for errors/varieties? None of the coins are magnetic just in case someone was curious. The 1999 rolls with the black have me worried. I'm thinking I should crack those and separate the coins with the black and put the rest in the clear coins rolls containers. All opinions appreciated. Edited by cladhunter13
04/21/2011 8:14 pm
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It looks like someone tried to cut it half with a paper trimmer.  |
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If you look at the 3rd and 4th pic of the coin...the large area to the right of the leaf is jagged and does not look like it was caused by something with a machined edge. It looks like it was pinched by something...just not sure what. It was almost dead center of the roll. I noticed it before cracking the roll.
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Oh, this in one of the plastic rolls!? I read too fast.  Sorry. Can't help you. Someone with inside knowledge of the minting process will have to chime in. |
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No worries. Yeah...it was in one of the mint clear rolls with the black crud in them. I saw it as I was looking at the roll. I had to take a look so I cracked it open. I also needed to see what the black crud was.
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That's  -Ikanddigit- I would think some sort of MD in handling process. ? maybe counting machine as a guess?
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Good rolls to practice your mint state grading. 1997 is particularly good, you should be able to cherry pick a nice MS-66+ plus out of those three rolls.
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Anyone have any ideas on what might have caused the black substance to form inside the rolls of 99's? The only thing I can think of is something must of been on part of the machine that produced the plastic rolls. As you can see in the pictures...the black substance is in the same location of all the affected rolls. The marks are aprox. the same size in each roll. I'm also curious as to what might of damaged the coin. I pulled it out of one of the mint rolls with the black substance in it. I would imagine that the damage was caused after the coin was stamped as some of the devices of the coin are affected along with the rim. |
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Are all the rolls the same date with the black mark?..If so it was probably stored by the person and maybe was a rubber band used to keep them together...Considering the coin that has damaged, due the other rolls have damaged coins also?...I am thinking the coins are rolling down and packaged and this arm graps the roll with black grease marks/grab marks from the machine....It sure looks like a defective blank
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Yes Zoomrr...all the rolls with the black marks are the same year (1999). The black marks are on the inside of the roll and in the exact same spot on all the affected rolls. I do not think it is from rubber-bands. I think something got on the plastic rolls...maybe when the plastic was manufactured for the rolls. None of the other rolls (1999) have a damaged coin like the one I have posted. I looks like something happened after the coin was stamped but before it was placed in the roll as the devices of the coin have been affected.
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