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Valued Member
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Having a tough time deciding in this is AU or MS...The luster is great, but I cannot a lot of wear anywhere. This is a scan, so I know its hard to grade without a pic, but cartwheel luster seems fantastic to my very very untrained eye...Seems like there is a big jump in value with this one depending on the grade and strike. I dont sell my treasures, but just want to catalogue it for the future gens in my family...thanks in advance guys. Also to the vammers out there, I place this as a VAM 8 (high 6 in date, and high mm) what do you think?   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Hate to see a post go unanswered. I'm no expert but it could make MS62. Fields look really good on both sides as does the cheek. But on the obverse looks like quite a bit of wear on the bolls and on the hair going upwards from the ear. Eye appeal could bring it up if the luster is a great as you seem to think.
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United States
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I'd call it AU based on these images. Note the appearance of the field surface around the obverse stars and date and compare to the open field areas in front of Liberty's face and behind her head. The slight darkening of the open fields indicates friction from brief circulation IMO. A similar effect is visible on the reverse. This coin should easily make AU-58 if it cartwheels like you describe but I can't see it as MS. I expect a grading service would agree, especially since they are well aware of how the value jumps for this coin in mint state.
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United States
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It looks to me to have circulation wear on it, Kempire. Technically, off these scans, AU-55. As you're aware, I'm sure, these were rather weakly struck. The luster you see on it could conceivably pull it up beyond that grade for the market. It's definitely a very nice coin. But for that tiny bit of work it did in the economy, it could very well grade in the MS-64 range.
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United States
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I go with a strong AU-55 and keep it in the AU range also. On the reverse the knuckles on the feet show some flattening out and well as the bols on the obverse. That said, Nawlins is known for their weak strikes on these, so in theory it could be MS. Nothing beats coin in hand though for judging.
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United States
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It would be easier to tell with pics instead of scans, but I think this is a horrendously weak strike, yet Mint State coin... Weak strikes rarely break the MS-63 barrier, and I see this as a MS-61 coin, but a pic could show the true grade...
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Valued Member
 Canada
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ok, so here is my first attempt on taking a pic with my wifes camera. I hope you guys can get the idea of the luster, and can help with grade opionions with these crap photos. I will try to figure out how to take a good pic, but I think my camera is just not going to work. thanks guys, mike.   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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AU-55/58 The cotton blossoms appear to evidence wear. IMHO, it's not worth risking UNC money on this one.
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Valued Member
Canada
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Thanks for your posts. I got this coin passed down to me, so It didn't cost a penny, or would I ever sell the treasures I have been given. I just want to discover what I have and learn all I can about them. Thanks again guys. And I'm sure I will have lots more questions! Mike
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United States
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Well, I don't know that that's luster. All that glitters isn't necessarily luster. Luster comes from the "skin" and the delicate "flow lines" that are imparted to the coin's surface by virtue of the striking of the coin. At any rate, I'm seeing the same evidence of circulation wear in these photos as in those scans. One of those cotton bols, in particular, is flat, and, I see it in the hairs, too. That said, these get graded and auctioned, at that grade. I think I'd be surprised, though, if the TPGs called this a MS coin. If they did, I'd think it must have some attribute that isn't quite coming across in the photos and scans.
PS: FWIW, I have "had me downs," too, and I wish they were all in this condition. Again, I think this is a very nice one.
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