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Valued Member
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Since I'm a newbee at this, I know, I ask a lot of questions. Keep trying the internet but have no luck. I know Peace Vams, but die changes in that series compared to this one are way different. With that in mind, I looked for some small dates (1970-S). I had about 50 of them to look at and I noticed lots of variation in this year. First, the strike seems in very high relief; every coin had it. So with that, see what you think of these photos and comment if you like. First the easiest one. I think I've seen this on some different dates. I assume this is an area that clashes happen and the operator just files off the side of the building. Common correct?  For mintmarks, every single one was either wide, fat or fat and had chips in it. Some had MD on them as well. Then I find this one. Is this an EDS then?  This next picture is NOT on the same coin as above (Top picture). Very skinny lettering here. I compared it to one of the other 49 and they all basically looked like the one below. Would it be a EDS then and as the die progresses it becomes fatter and "mushy"?  This last picture is a little wierd to me. It could be a combination of a rotated hub or an actual broken letter. I've never seen something like this on a coin.....  Thanks for putting up with me guys. I appreciate all of the help. I know I'll be a long time contributor (when I get some more time under my belt) |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Check other examples from this year. The reverse is like that on them all. It was just the design from that year. When comparing devices, you need to compare with the same year to see if examples are different or not. The thing letters are from over polishing that took the field down to remove some of the depth of the devices. They get that way when over worked to remove a clash.
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Valued Member
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Yes, in my original post..
-I did indicate the reverse was the same for that year... maybe you meant years around it..?
-Every picture is a 1970-S, just a different coin (Had 50 like I said of the same year), so yes, compared apples to apples...
Any updates then to the above based on that? What about the missing part of the "E"? There isn't a clash really to remove unless somehow the head clashed there and broke it off?
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Pillar of the Community
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The 'floating roof' on your top coin is die polishing. It can also happen due to weak hubbing of the die or due to excessive die wear. It is common.
What you are describing as 'die chips' in your mintmarks are actually indentations in the die from the base of the mintmark punch...basically a heavily punched mintmark will have these 'bubbles' of metal on the coins because they are dents in the die. They happen very frequently on 1970S cents as well as other years that use the same style of mintmark (1968-1970). What you are showing is a more lightly punched mintmark. Die polishing can also polish off the nubs leaving a cleaner appearing mintmark.
Your weaker LIBERTY is essentially one of two things. It is either a weak hubbing or die polishing. Also common for this time period. I have found 1972 cents with TRUST nearly gone and wire thin, while the rest of the coin is normal. I have also found 1973 cents with a very thin and wire-like L of LIBERTY. All caused by weak hubbing.
The top of the E of CENT is a stylized letter - basically artistic license used in this particular reverse design style. It is normal.
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Valued Member
United States
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Thank you. Always some great knowledge from you. Great website too!!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Hi
Did you mean that you had 50 small date S's ?
Or just 50 random S's ?
Reason why I am asking is that one pic. of the date shows
a large date.
Thanks
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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All of the obverse images are of large date coins, so I assume he was only mentioning that he had 50 1970S cents without specifying that they are all large date.
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Valued Member
United States
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Yes, over the last 2 weeks I've gathered up about 50 72-S pennies and recently went through them. This coin was the only one that had a thin mintmark. I'm learning that over time and having the fields filed down around it that this is somewhat normal.
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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks
I just thought at first, Wow, 50 small dates.
That would be a very nice collection.
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