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 Posted 05/07/2011  10:22 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add P Lopez to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
While cleaning out a pile of coins, I found these 3 unusual coins. I've been searching the internet and posting on other coin forums but no one can give me an answer. I'm hoping someone here can shed some light!

Coin 1...
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Coin 2... HOW DO I CLEAN THIS SO IT'S READABLE?
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Coin 3.... coin or token?
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Thanks... Patty
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 Posted 05/07/2011  10:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i am no where near an expert on world coins, I mainly work with U.S. coins, but from what I'm seeing,

coin 1 looks to be Mexican, coin 2 seems to be french, and I'm pretty sure coin 3 is a gaming token of some sort.
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 Posted 05/07/2011  11:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add P Lopez to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Adam... thanks for the reply! amazing!

I live in Mexico and the 1st coin isn't from here. If you look at the lettering on the bottom of the coin (on the back), some of the letters are upside down and has an apostrophe through the lettering. I was thinking either greek or french? The date seems to be 1801 or 1802, cant read it because theres a crack in the metal after 180.

Coin 2... how do I clean this so its readable? everyone says DONT CLEAN IT... well, then how can you see what it is?

Coin 3... this coin seems to have some percentage of gold... why would they make a token out of gold? I'm going to take it to a jeweler just to be sure.
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 Posted 05/07/2011  11:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i think the gold your seeing is bronze or a lighter colored material, possibly tarnished?
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The gold is not gold, its bronze or brass.
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 Posted 05/07/2011  12:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DCH to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
#1 is a Brass 1/4 Real from Zacatecas, Mexico. Dates from 1824-1864 with many years skipped. KM#366
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 Posted 05/07/2011  3:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add P Lopez to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You guys are awesome... and so is this site! Thank you all.... DCH, you were right. Everyone here in Mexico was telling me, no it wasnt from Mexico. Well, after doing a search on Zacatecas.. found the coin! THANK YOU.

Now, if someone could just tell me how to CLEAN coin number 2 so I can see what it is, that would be great!
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 Posted 05/07/2011  10:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Patty, the only way to clean coins like these which have been in the ground (I'm assuming) is to soak them for a LONG time to loosen the crud on them. You could give it a soak for a few weeks in distilled water (NEVER any other kind, which could damage the coin), and then then gently poke at the crud with a toothpick to see if any flakes off. If not, then soak it for several months in olive oil (I have some Romans which have soaking for a couple of YEARS!) and try the same technique. Good luck!
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pls.... thank you... I will try that... I'm not in any hurry, just curious is all...lol... THANKS AGAIN TO ALL WHO COMMENTED... GREAT HELP!!
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 Posted 05/08/2011  02:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your coin #2 is damaged, not dirty. It's "roadkill", with multiple deep gouges, dents and scrapes that have obliterated most of the design, most likely caused by lying on a well-trafficked road or footpath for a while. Cleaning it will not made it more readable - if anything, it will make it less readable.

As for its identity, there's just enough detail left for me to identify it: it's another early Mexican coin, this time a 1 centavo from the post-Imperial period (1869-1897); the top pic is upside-down. See this example on WorldCoinGallery. Unfortunately, there's a huge smash across the last two digits of the date, which has probably rendered it permanently unreadable.
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 Posted 05/08/2011  11:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add P Lopez to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow Sap... you're good! the coin has some sort of sticky gunk on it, so I'm hoping it will clean up... but you may be right in that it might be roadkill...lol. THANKS SO MUCH.
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