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 Posted 05/10/2011  07:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add copper nickel daddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nasty lamination (in a good way!) Like it a lot.
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That is a large delamination, the bottom curl of the peel is still attached and you can see another peel forming at the right wheat ear. It is caused by a weakness in the alloy which leads to a poor internal bond.
That bottom area is sitting well-up from the surface. If it's a part of the delamination that didn't peel off how do you explain why it didn't take any impression from the stalk? That bottom area was depressed when the coin was struck, that's why the stalk didn't "take" on it. It was a "negative" impression on the planchet struck by a "negative" impression on the die. Note, too, how the bottom of it is rather uniformly "ribbed," as opposed to "smooth." That's kind of odd, as well.

I don't know. Just throwing this whole error off on a delamination doesn't seem like quite the whole story, here.
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The initial striking of the coin has nothing to do with the lamination, they are unrelated as the delamination occurred post-mint. If you straightened out the curl, it would have as-minted detail on the side that cannot be seen in the photo. The ribbing you see is just the grain of the metal.
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The ribbing matches the ribbing underneath. The ribbing was caused by the alloy mix. Imagine a woody sliced at an angle to the flat plane.

The bent up area happened after the strike. The impression of the stalk is hidden underneath.

I do not mean to sound "matter of fact" just my best guess.

Edit: I mean I agree with Bio This is what happens when you get distracted while posting.
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Wait a minute, are we talking about the same area? I'm talking about that bottom, raised area, running over the wheat stalk, that didn't take any impression from the wheat stalk. That area was either sitting down on the planchet or down on the die, itself. What else would explain why it didn't take any impression from the wheat stalk on the strike?
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I think so. It looks like a rat-tailed comb. I see the impression of the stalk above it (very thinly outlined). We are saying the bent over part (the head of the comb) happened after the strike.

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The pink right over the comb is a clue that this area was not exposed as long as the rest.
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