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My 1-St Doubled Die... 1964 Washington Proof

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 Posted 05/11/2011  01:52 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Secret Argent Man to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I think I just found my first doubled die coin!

When I decided to explore this aspect of things I went out & bought a cherrypicker's guide so I'd know what to look for, but wouldn't you know it, this one's not in there. But reading through the intro, discarding dozens of machine doubled coins and looking at photos of all the other ones in there I'm 99% sure... but am hoping someone more knowledgeable than yours truly can have a look and see if they concur.

The Q, the U, and (to a lesser extent) the A all show what I think to be doubling. It shows up good on my super-giganto 4 MB photos, hopefully these scaled down ones will do the job.


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 Posted 05/11/2011  02:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jeffatNJC to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can't see it.
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 Posted 05/11/2011  11:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It appears to be a normal proof Quarter. Very slight Machine Doubling. When you look too closely at coins, anything looks like something.
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 Posted 05/11/2011  12:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Secret Argent Man to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, that's not what I wanted to hear!

I have seen plenty of Machine Doubling and thought this looked different...especially on the Q, it is not the "flat shelf" apparently normally associated with machine...so I really thought I had something.

Do I have to take back my dancing fruit?
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I've seen very slight Machine Doubling. It usually affects a small area:
My-1-St-Doubled-Die...-1964-Washington-Proof
I've labeled this one as ejection doubling, but it fits into the Machine Doubling subject. All caused by the same thing, loose dies/machine needing adjustment. If it were a doubled die more devices would have been affected equally. With the 9 different classes of doubled dies, the coins are affected different from different causes during the hubbing process. Machine Doubling is just movement during/after the strike.
Here is what you would expect to see on a doubled die:
https://www.coincommunity.com/forum..._BIG_ONE.jpg
https://www.coincommunity.com/forum..._003_008.jpg
https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...E_extras.jpg
https://www.coincommunity.com/forum..._Regular.jpg
https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...9records.jpg
https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...-1DR-001.jpg
Note how the devices are affected from the hubbing process.

Yes I know I used cents instead of quarters. But the principle is the same from denomination to denomination.
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 Posted 05/11/2011  3:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Secret Argent Man to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am beginning to think this is like a lot of things.. the first one is the hardest--- and then once you find it and know what to look for it'll probably come easier. I guess I'll keep looking.

Thanks for the input all.

On a side note, I am considering changing my signature to "False alarm, keep moving, nothing to see here..."
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 Posted 05/11/2011  7:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Like you said, it takes time to get the eyes to recognize what you are looking at. Now that your eyes are picking up very minor stuff, when you find a real doubled die, it will just leap at you. You will know without a doubt what you have found. Then you will realize that you were looking to closely for something that wasn't there. I can't wait for your next coin Andrew. It should be the real deal.
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 Posted 05/11/2011  11:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jayman931 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Secret Argent Man....I am in the same boat...I have posted several false alarms and am still looking for my first! Wanna race?
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