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Civil War Token/Confederate Token/Hard Times Token

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 Posted 05/15/2011  3:46 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add OrBe to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello,

I am new to this coin forum! I am from Southern California. I came across a large binder of a variety of different tokens/medals/bank notes/military ribbons etc in my grandparents attic and I am trying to do my best to learn about them all.

I have a huge volume of civil war token/confederate token/hard times tokens. What are the differneces of these?

I am looking at a confederate one from 1861 1/100 on the back, and a head on the front. Also looking at an 1864 civil war token - my grandfather wrote rarity #1/ 51/342 FULD on it.It has a indian head dress head on the front. Another one is 1863 civil war token with a guy on a horse on the front. Pretty. And yet another has 1862 "US Merrimar" ship token-this one is really neat as it has some great detail work on the back of a ship in the ocean. Some of the hard tiems tokens are for shoes, or cigars or other goods. Can anyone tell me about some of these types of tokens? Sorry for all the info. in one post! I am fascinated by all these items and have a ton of them!. : )

Cheers,
OrBe.
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Pics would be great, I have some ideas but there are a lot of varieties with these tokens as far as I know.
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Pictures would go a long way in helping to identify these. The civil war token with the ship is most likely the Monitor not the Merrimac I'm betting. As for Hard Times they are 1838-44 much earlier than civil war tokens. If you put up some pictures I'm sure the forum will help you identify them.
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Pics are needed. "The Guide Book of U.S. Coins," aka Red Book,lists some examples of Hard Times and Civil War Tokens. Use the index to find the appropriate pages. The 1862 Merrimac token (actually made many years following the Civil War), if attracted to magnet, may be made of iron from that ship and is potentially a rare item. There were plastic replicas that date to the 1960's. The Confederate 1/100 is a modern fantasy piece from the 1960's. R-1 Civil War tokens are among the most common, and VF-AU specimens will retail in the $15-$30 range.
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P.S. - Welcome aboard!
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I am looking at a confederate one from 1861 1/100 on the back, and a head on the front. Also looking at an 1864 civil war token - my grandfather wrote rarity #1/ 51/342 FULD on it.It has a indian head dress head on the front. Another one is 1863 civil war token with a guy on a horse on the front. Pretty. And yet another has 1862 "US Merrimar" ship token-this one is really neat as it has some great detail work on the back of a ship in the ocean. Some of the hard tiems tokens are for shoes, or cigars or other goods. Can anyone tell me about some of these types of tokens? Sorry for all the info. in one post! I am fascinated by all these items and have a ton of them!. : )


Some of the ones you're describing are "Patriotics." Patriotic tokens have obverse (heads) and reverse (tails) numbers, known as "Fuld Numbers," named after numismatists George and Melvin Fuld.

There are hundreds of varieties of Patriotic tokens, all with varying combinations of obverses and reverses. Each combination also has an estimated rarity.

Collector demand, rarity and grade (condition) determine value.

The others you describe sound like both Hard Times and Merchant tokens, depending on years struck.

As others on the forum have recommended, it's best if you post photographs of your specimens. It may be helpful to transcribe also what your grandparents wrote as well, for each picture you post.

- Cheetah
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