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I've pondered off and on about consolidating my collection into much fewer but more valuable/rare coins. I've never fully taken that step, but may sometime in the future. Is it worth it to trade say 40 $500 coins for 2 $10,000 coins? Will it bring more numismatic enjoyment or less? If you were to consolidate parts of your collection, what would you buy and what would you give up?

Here is an example that I might consider. Selling my complete merc dime collection, complete lincoln collection, complete walker collection(all keys included) and 12 half eagles for something like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...TRK:MEWAX:IT

I probably wouldn't do it, but part of me really wants to.
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You know I have thought about it too, but never done it. I can't seem to be able to part with coins that I have only one of.
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 Posted 05/17/2011  07:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chasinva69 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You have 40 $500 coins? Wow. I wish I had this "problem."
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Still working on expanding my collection. first things first hehe.
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IMO, the less coins you have the less enjoyment. Also, there's a lot of risk and a lot less buyers for such high profile coins.
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I like to collect because I enjoy completing sets or albums. So, I like to always be working a list, looking for specific coins to fill slots in my collection. I like to buy less expensive coins more frequently rather than big ticket coins infrequently. In fact, many times the "key dates" are a barrier to me because I'd rather buy 100 $10 coins than one $1000 coin.

Of course, everyone has different goals and ambitions when it comes to collecting.
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I couldn't do it. Maybe I'm too in love with sorting and cataloging to have a minimalist collection of high dollar value. I'd rather have a complete worn set of wheat Lincolns instead of a pristine 1909 VDB. In fact, if I had the 1909 VDB I would probably sell it to get a complete worn set of wheat Lincolns!

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You have 40 $500 coins? Wow. I wish I had this "problem."


Lol, no it was just a "for instance". One of the advantages is that, depending on your budget, you may be able to own a coin that you would never be able to own otherwise. Cheaper coins can usually be replaced more easily.
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I prefer having a good # of type coins. I'd rather have a $100 than 100 $1 coins, but would prefer 40 $500 coins to 2 $10K. I like having the variety, and as Depreso mentions, it's easier to liquidate smaller $ coins and you don't have to worry about as drastic swings in value given that there are far more buyers.

I've definitely been tempted as well though - thinking about the awesome coins (well, coin - singular) I could get if I sold everything else. I'd love to have a 1907 Gaudens high relief...
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Unless you will be able to buy every now and then a $10,000 coin to add to your collection ... you will have only these 2 $10,000 coins in your collection and then it is either returning back to collect less expensive coins or stop collecting and just keep these as the 2 and only coins in your collection.

Plus as the above members have mentioned, it will be more difficult to sell these coins. But it is just my opinion
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Weyelll.... is it really more difficult to sell 1 $10k coin or 40 $500 coins? Honestly, I think you'll have to wait longer to sell 1 $10k coin, but selling 40 $500 coins sure as heck isn't easy!

I've pondered this a lot, too Johnny. Do I really want 5 Fugios in AG-G or one in VF? Do I really want 4lbs of Wheats or 1 genuine 1909S VDB?

The answer for the first is really tough! I like all of my "characterified" (hee hee hee) - others would call UGLY Fugios. But they each have a story and I can put them in my hands together and say, "So this is what Fugios feel like in the hand... this is what somebody may have traded for a goat in 1790..." Or not, depending on which historian you read.

The answer for the second is easy. If I really wanted to sell off each one of my 4lbs of duplicate wheats, or even by roll, it would only take fifteen years, and by that time, I might be able to afford 1 genuine 1909S VDB if I managed to get top price for each of my 400,000 pennies.

But that's not what you asked. You asked is it better to have 1 ridiculously awesome coin versus 40 really cool coins. Well, were I looking at it from an investment perspective, I'd personally rather 5 or 10 awesome coins than 40 really cool ones. I don't know if I'd put it all into one. But if I had the chance to put it all into one, I just might... =)
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It is totally personal and to each their own, but I don't think I would ever do that. I enjoy having sets (completed sets and nearly completed sets). Even some of the ones that are well circulated I enjoy having and looking through them once in awhile. There is a fine line between quality and quantity...I don't want a bunch of junky coins just to say I have lots of coins, but I also don't want a small high end collection that doesn't let me browse though a good variety. Of course I don't really look at the value of my collection for resale and I'll probably never have more than 1 or 2 coins that are worth $500+. Problem solved.
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I hear what you all are saying, and thanks so much for your opinions! It is nice to have a "collectors" collection, with a lot of variety and perusing ability so I understand that. I think I mis-stated my original post. I wouldnt want my whole collection to be 1 or 2 coins, but I'd consider trading stuff that I either have less interest in, or can easily replace for 1 or 2 monster coins. I was really interested in Lincoln Cents and mercs when I started, and am now much less interested in them. I still really like looking at my type, gold, and SLQ sets, so I'd hang on to those for a while since I look at them often. I'm at odds, because I like completing albums as so many others here do; but once it's complete, it's sort of like "Mission Accomplished". The idea of buying a monster coin, that I'd never be able to afford otherwise in my life, is intriguing. I disagree a little on one point, I don't think a 10K coin would be hard to sell at all, Heritage deals with dozens of those per day effectively. Monetarily, quality is known to hold it's value very well overall vs. quantity(though that is a very generic statement)...but I digress.

Of course I would never go into a purchase like that without tons of thorough research as to what I'm getting into. Anyways, if anyone else has any inputs on a "monster coin" that they'd like to add to their collection if they were to trade a portion of their collection, I'd love to hear about it!

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Anyways, if anyone else has any inputs on a "monster coin" that they'd like to add to their collection if they were to trade a portion of their collection, I'd love to hear about it!



Yeah, sure, an 1894-S Barber dime

Seriously though, I have been trying to consolidate my collection to more, higher end coins with the exception of some of my Danscos I'm working on. I have such a massive raw inventory, that I've been going through it to pick out coins to move on the CCF, ebay, or my ecrater site, and I'm not done yet.
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I met a man who owned Breen-12 of the 1894-S Barber dime. Just thought I'd throw that out there to make you feel a tinge of jealousy.
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Yeah, sure, an 1894-S Barber dime

Seriously though, I have been trying to consolidate my collection to more, higher end coins with the exception of some of my Danscos I'm working on. I have such a massive raw inventory, that I've been going through it to pick out coins to move on the CCF, ebay, or my ecrater site, and I'm not done yet.


1894-S, wouldn't that be nice! I'll take an Ultra High Relief 1907 Saint. But that's great to hear Dave! It looks like you've already started down the path that I've been considering. What kind of coins are you looking consolidating into? I'd really like to get an 1856 FE, but that may require too much sacrifice. I'm also looking into a VF pre-1834 gold, or a G4 1901-s quarter.
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