Torex June 2011....5c 1965 Large Beads Attached Jewel In F

I am not sure if you are a new collector so I will try and help you sort things out:

There are lots of coins rarer than the 36 dot coins but will NEVER have the same impact on the hobby. These coins (the 36 dot penny and dimes) are now legendary and world wide recognition is well established. I also like that 1965 coin do! I would how ever not hope for it to be valued at the price of the 36 dot coins. Look at the 2000P 25 cent pieces they have a better chance to attain legendary status if they stay rare and full roles are not one day found or a bunch in circulated condition. Look at the 1969 large date dime it was once a 100 000$ when first found and people where going crazy for one of them and bang a few dozen showed up now they are almost impossible to sell and I say this owning one my self. They are now hard to give away people just do not care any more about this ultra rare coin.
Canadian collectors want a rare coin that was made for circulation (I always use the same examples the 1921 5 cents and 1921 50 cents coins = rare date not rare variety + circulation coin = most wanted qualities) that is not a variety in the U.S they collect varieties just as much as rare dates.

And on another note the 36 dot penny and 36 dot dime will NEVER be as collected and popular as the King of Canadian coins AKA the 1921 50 cent piece. When I say NEVER I mean NEVER. That is just the way things are. Don't get me wrong I would love to own a 1936 dot penny but would rather have a gem mint state 1921 50 cent piece any day of the week much larger crowd to sell to once that day comes around.

I am not saying that the 1965 is not a good and popular coin but do not lie to yourself thinking it will be a legendary coin one day. I will save you the agony!!

danlos9551:

Like I said it is not a bad coin to own and will most likely keep going up in value over the next decade. But I have a hard time seen the nicest one ever going over 10 000$ yes still a good investment value wise. But as a legendary coin no never and a 100 000$ that will never happen. Don't get me wrong enjoy your coin and yes it will increase in value because right now people like that coin. But remember varieties can change over night and bang no one wants it anymore. Rare DATES are always well collected. I would suggest a 1889 or a 1893 round top 3 10 cents. Or a 1870 no LCW or 1890H 50 cent piece in low grade those are more popular and have good potential.

I am WELL aware that the vast majority of people do not have the money to buy a 1921 5 cent (this coin is a good investment in AU or above but as lower grades well they are easy to locate and buy and most people who want one already own one so they max out they lower again then over time go back up then the cycle continues) in high grade or a low grade 1921 50 cent (better coin to own because they only come up for sale once every few years and mint state examples only come up for sale once every about 10 years so people who want to own one must take advantage of a sale when one does come up or pay the price of waiting another couple of years) piece but there are other semi key dates like the ones I mentioned that do well and are fun to collect. High graded pennies like top 1 or 2 population known examples are also a good way to go. The 1 cent collector base is HUGE. Do not over pay but that is a good route to go. The 10 cent series is not a widely collected series people are not interested is such small coins. Yes the key dates are good in this series.

btw...wouldn't 1893 round top 3 and 1965 large beads be in the same category (only difference being one is modern, the other is not)...
as both are intended design varieties...as the design changed within the same year? :)
...its not like a die crack or extra waterline ;)

Interesting activity on the 1965 large beads nickel lately:

1. Heritage Auction Jan.2.2012, MS63 ICCS detached Jewel sold for $4025 (thanks to me...I kept pushing the bid ;)
http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleN...&lotNo=23508

2. CNC Christmas sale Dec.30.2011, MS60 ICCS attached Jewel sold for $3830+tax ($4300) (I also pushed the bid on that)
http://www.icollector.com/1965-5-Lg...go_i11562491

Pretty strong bidding for a very rare coin.

Wash5...what's the grade of your 1965 attached jewel?

I have mine up for sale on ebay now for $4500. Its an ICCS EF40...yours would be the 5th known.

So very true Ugly, I know of one collection that has at least two in mint state. Again, I defer to Carl Sagan, "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"...

I have about 15 rolls of 1965 nickels I've pulled from circulation for bullion, guess I should check these coins for this variety

I agree with SPP's Carl Sagan quote myself. I just mention this in passing as a consideration to what should be a risk management strategy for collecting in the face of a couple of factors ; generally falling prices and the boomers beginning to see the sod from the other side thus causing liquidation of their third and fourth generation collections. Gold pieces have experienced this a little less intensely it seems.

I think the concepts (not necessarily the reality) of modern manufacturing and duplication capabilities have also taken their toll on collections. As I continue to liquidate the less than best pieces I have the prices have continued to trend down for most, but not all types over the past few years.

Now is a great time to buy if you're building up compared to prices in the recent past though. I'm just edgy when it comes to adding even a couple more pieces to a pop report. It seems to really swing the prices as more people await a potential small hoard being released. Tough market to sell in, maybe just the easy access to information is a big part of it all now that you can see at a glance online auction and many dealer inventories.

People are more cautious about parting with money in the face of all these things.