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Getting Folds Out

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Bill collector,

Here you go Sir. Not the best of pictures but the after pic in some ways is complementing the note a tad bit.

The note HAD 3 folds, some wrinkling and has perfect corners (Someone kept if folded from day one).

You will notice the break in paper where the folds were / used to be.

Fwiw - The note was left in a book in between 2 chcu notes for about a month with about 200 lbs on top.
This method is acceptable by most collectors.

Ironing, counter folding etc are NO NO's and you will do more damage to the note.

If anyone has any pics of before and after that they would like to share that would be great.



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Nickleman is the one who gave me this idea a while back. Thanks
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05/21/2011 08:09 am
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 Posted 05/21/2011  10:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nickelman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Something else I have not said before now is that time can be just as important as weight.

I started saving $2 notes and silver certificates I found in circulation when I was a kid. I had a ziploc that I put them all neatly into. Before I did so I would unfold all the corners so they lay flat. Well over the years I had a pile that was a few inches thick and I noticed that every few years it seemed like the pile got thinner and the notes got flatter.

It wasn't my imagination. Even though they didn't have any weight on them just being in a perfectly straight pile pressed only by the other notes and pressure from the ziploc they smoothed out. After 35 years the pile that was 3 inches thick is now 1 inch thick and there are no folds or wrinkles.

That is when I started trying to speed the process up, 30+ years is a long time to wait. I'm sure people have been pressing notes one way or another since notes were invented, but the method of pressing them inside a thick hard cover book sandwiched between two CU notes under weight is my preferred method now. The weight I use is $500 dollars worth of pennies.

One more thing I would add is that once I had a crisp 1988A note that someone had wadded up (I mean really wadded) into a little ball. I put it in a mylar sleeve because I could visually see that all the wrinkles and folds are good and even stretch it flat before putting it in the book. I wish I had done some before and afters for you but I didn't. It still doesn't look perfect, but it does look a lot better. I need to give it another round under the Lincoln's.
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well, I will say that that serial # gives the note extra "oomph" and a certain additional value. However, no matter the method used, a fold is still a fold, and it can't be erased, only mitigated. That's cool with me, the less the better, IMO.
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Thanks Ceylon62,
That seems to make the note look much nicer. Not trying to fool anyone as I'm sure on close examination the folds can be seen but it's just more pleasing to look at. It's also a neat number but as you know I don't collect by numbers, if I did I probably would never complete collection of anything.
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Bill collector, This is more of an exercise to spot the break in paper from pictures. Not many are aware of looking for these subtle nuances when they bid on net auctions. There are also other differences to identify doctored notes which is a totally different topic which has been discussed extensively on CU.


Nick, I do have my older stars in zip locks and do agree on the added benefit. Here is another thing I did - I put the notes in sleeves, and then repackaged it with firm Cardboard on either side to keep it straight / flat as possible before I stored them. This is how I have most of the raw chcu notes saved.
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As a kid years ago I ironed some foreign notes that were badly wrinkled. What damage did I do other than getting rid of them?
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 Posted 05/22/2011  8:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nickelman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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What damage did I do other than getting rid of them?


Changes the texture of the paper and causes it to shrink in size.
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Thanks Nickelman. I just remember it looking alot better nice and smooth back then.
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 Posted 05/23/2011  06:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ceylon62 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To add to nick's comment Ironing removes the "sheen".
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