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Cleaning Milky Haze On A Silver Proof Coin?

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I have a silver coin that is developing a milky haze on it on the mirror areas and would like to know if there is a safe way of cleaning it off. Is it safe to use e+Z+est dip? A very quick dip in it and a rinse in distilled water and the an air dry? I also have some VerdiCare would that work? And how to prevent this from happening again.
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I have seen a coin dealer very quickly wash a slightly impaired silver proof in a professional silver cleaning solution used for cleaning silver flatware. He then rinsed with distilled water, and acetone after that. Brought it back to new, except for the hairlines.

To keep the milkiness from coming back, the storage environment needs to be changed. Start with a new coin holder for it, unless it was in a capsule. If that is the case, clean the capsule.
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I know the milky spots is caused by the way they wash the planchets and not anything that can be done to remove them but not sure about haze on a proof coin. If it were me I would probably just leave them alone because chances are anything done to help would probably cause more problems in the future than the haze will cause by itself
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VERDI-CARE is not designed to remove that and it's not recommended for use on proof coins.
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I've found proof coins in change several times. Usually not in horrible shape so I've tried to get them as close to original as possible. For some reason that cloudyness appearing seams to be common. So far never has worked well at all. I've tried such things as Acetone, Laquer thinners, jewlery cleaners of several types, Alcohol and many different things but so far, they end up looking worse.
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I think the same as just carl ! Acetone on a proof take a lot of the mirror and the luster off from the coin !
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If it were me I would probably just leave them alone because chances are anything done to help would probably cause more problems in the future than the haze will cause by itself
I agree. No need to make a problem worse. Your efforts are better placed into acquiring a replacement coin.

The cloudy haze on the 40% silver-clad Eisenhower dollars is something that I have grown to accept. So much, in fact, that I would be suspicious of one that did not have the issue.
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Acetone on a proof take a lot of the mirror and the luster off from the coin !

That is not correct at all, acetone may not help hazing but it will certainly not harm the mirrored fields and strip luster- pure acetone is not chemically capable of doing that.
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That is not correct at all, acetone may not help hazing but it will certainly not harm the mirrored fields and strip luster- pure acetone is not chemically capable of doing that.



Indeed....acetone is 100% safe for use on ALL coins.
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I recently found a proof clad half dollar in a bank roll that was pretty hazy. It also had two corrosion spots on the reverse which meant it wasn't a keeper for me. With nothing to lose, I placed the coin in white vinegar at room temperature and let is soak for 10 minutes or so. The obverse mirrors were much clearer and more attractive to my eye, with the haze essentially gone.

I'm not recommending it necessarily, but I've also used white vinegar to remove the greenish powdery film that sometimes occurs on silver-clad Kennedy halves. Their appearance is improved 100% with no downside that I've been able to detect.
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I just got a PF 87 Silver Eagle off ebay for $60. It just arrived two days ago, Coins very nice except for the fact the mirror like fields were a little dull and hazy, I've been wanting to use a product I got about a year ago called MS-70, I've yet to use it, So I finally said the heck with it. I grabbed a styrofoam coffee cup, the little 8oz ones, I poured MS-70 up to that first line about an inch. Then prayed to the coin gods, and softly laid the coin over onto the bottom of the cup. I swirled it around for a minute or so, flipped it did it for another minute, When I looked in to pull the coin out I noticed it was really gleaming. I used my tap water (I know) to rinse it off really good. Then I used distilled water to give it a final rinse. To make you cringe a little more I used a bounty paper towel to lay the coin on and pat dry, flipping it every 2 pats. The finished result really shocked me. The coin went from murky and hazy to Crystal Clear, Shinny Mirror Fields, It even did an amazing job on the design, Motto Etc.. Its now frosty w/ amazing fields, Now the coin was very nice to start. But if your did a side by side no doubt in my mind everyone would choose the MS-70 Result. Please don't try this expecting same results, I don't need any hate mail saying I messed up one of your coins. In other words DISCLAIMER LOL if you do decide to try it make sure your absolutely ready to lose what ever it is your trying it on. I far from recommend trying as I did. I allowed other things going on in my life to sway my usual judgement, I would hate to be the cause of anyone's pain. please be careful. I think subconsciously I was being so reckless so it did come out with something that would make me say, Well I'll never try that again. Even the chosen coin leads me to believe that. I'll post the pics of ebay Before and MS-70 After tomorrow.
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These are after MS-70


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Nice conservation! I'd say MS70 and you did a great job on saving that coin!
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I know this topic is old, but I just wanted to chime in incase anyone comes across it.
Haze on proof coins is simply removed by the before mentioned ms70. However, dont do it like the previous post. Its not a dip. Dont allow a coin to sit in it.....get a qtip, wet it with ms70 solution, and ROLL the qtip, dont rub....use 1 qtip per side of the coin to be safe, even though with haze, it comes off with one roll of the qtip....then I do the same as mentioned....wash VERY WELL with tap water, and then dip it in distilled water to remove any cal/mag from the tap water to prevent spots...dry....and you have a coin that not only will be like it was first minted and gradeable by NGC/PCGS....but even more amazing is if your careful enough, will leave NO hairlines even on mirror proof. I have tested this time and time again with no visible hairlines under stereo scope with 40X magnification
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At least you added relevant content.

I would add that I only rinse with pure acetone, not water (tap, distilled, or otherwise). A pure acetone rinse can air dry with no need for patting or rubbing.
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