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2000-D Jefferson Nickel

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I do not search nickels all that much, but I came across this one that looked odd. It has very fat lettering compared to others of the same year and mint. In the photos below the coin in question will be the first one of each angle. Any thoughts?


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 Posted 06/05/2011  4:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yotie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i have seen that before and I ASSUMED it is a late die state
i am no expert so I hope they will chime in soon
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 Posted 06/05/2011  6:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wrestling_135 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great question, I came across a bunch like this too, just assumed it wasn't anything. Can anyone shed some light? :)
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 Posted 06/05/2011  6:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It might be circulation damage, coin wrapper damage or VLDS or a combination of all. The devices I can see if theyr are lines flowing aroound the devices. I did not the top of the head looks like something that may have affect the rest of the coin. Is it wider than normal? Someone may have squeezed it between two pieces of leather? Hard to tell from images provided. Usually on LVDS coins you can see the die flow in the fields. I think I can see it on the mint mark area on the first image. But the angle of the last two images makes it appear flat. I don't feel it is a doubled die as their is no spread, just a squashed look. So I'm unsure. Reverse images might reveal more?
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 Posted 06/05/2011  6:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add seal006 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here are a couple of more closeups of the coin in question.


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Coop,

It is the same size as a normal nickel. Here are new pics of the whole obverse and reverse.



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 Posted 06/05/2011  7:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wrestling_135 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think the question is that the year "2000" (and text) is wider in one and thinner in another.
Sine we have a lot of small things in coins that could be worth a lot, I (like coop I am sure) think that the more noticeable difference in the "boldness" of the two texts may be something?
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Almost looks like it was used in a slot machine or vending machine for a long time.
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Nobody knows the answer to this? I might want to go dig out the nickels I "discarded" thinking it was just some reason it happened.
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 Posted 06/06/2011  01:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wrestling_135 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Anyone?
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 Posted 06/06/2011  09:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wrestling_135 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Seal, I think this will just have to be counted as a "nothing." I wish there was some knowledge around this. I have already tossed mine. Maybe I should have kept them :S
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 Posted 06/06/2011  09:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've seen many similar 2000 nickels. It's Die Deterioration.
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Thank you Mike
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Mike,

I appreciate the answer, and it does make sense. Knowing that the 2000-D is second on the list of most minted nickel, leads me to this question. Does the mint have a specific number of dies they use each year, and is that number the same every year? If so, would that mean you would see more Die Deterioration from the years where minting was much higher than those we deam "lower mintage" numbers?
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I haven't made a comparison between Die Deterioration, total mintage, and total number of dies used. But it is clear that some years feature more cases of severe Die Deterioration than others. 1983 was a big year. They were just not replacing the dies in a timely fashion during that year, at least for nickels and quarters.
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Thanks, I just thought they might be a connection.
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