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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Hi, Recently I received an email containing the following verbiage: 'World Coin Search The World Coin Price Guide is a complete catalog of values for World coins from 1600 to date. Created by NGC and Krause Publications' NumisMaster, the price guide pages are arranged by Krause catalog numbers and include values, images and specifications such as weight, composition, engraver and current bullion values. Found at NGCcoin.com, it is the most comprehensive online valuation guide available, and is free to all users." This new world coin guide can be located at: http://www.ngccoin.com/poplookup/Wo...e-Guide.aspx with an excellent tutorial URL located on the top right hand corner of the same page. I just wanted several of the CC members to comment on this site after trying a few coins out insofar as identifying a specific coin's country (for unknown toughies), $ value, and metal composition etc... After I tried it out I personally thought that it may be one of the better comprehensive sites for world coins worthy to be considered in a similar category such as: http://www.coincommunity.com/numismatic_search/ If other more effective and accurate similar sites do exist, please also indicate them in this thread. thanks mdpmedia |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4212 Posts |
Very nice, thanks! I can dump a few bookmarks now.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
575 Posts |
Very cool:-)Thanks for sharing.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
648 Posts |
 useful Thank you |
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Valued Member
United States
62 Posts |
Very useful for a new collector like myself. Thank you.
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Valued Member
United States
384 Posts |
Looks good, and it sure should be very useful! Thanks for sharing.
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 Australia
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I have to say, I'm pleasantly surprised by that site. I had assumed it would be like the PCGS price guide and be aimed at NGC-slabbed coin prices. I'm also surprised that Krause/NumisMaster allowed them to broadcast this information for free. You have to pay subscriptions to get price and mintage information from off the NumisMaster site. The search engine is also more user-friendly and Firefox-friendly than the NumisMaster one. Two thumbs up from me. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Yes, thank you, this is a very cool site. So much useful, detailed info in one place - love it!
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10045 Posts |
Wow--great site, it lists the overdates/varieties too--thanks for the link! |
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Germany
1063 Posts |
Went onto "United Kingdom" and all it comes up with on the list to choose from are Euro coins!
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Australia
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Try "Great Britain" instead.  Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Germany
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So the UK has only issued bogus pieces? Hehe.
Just had a look at what they list for the Federal Republic of Germany. That country has had nothing but Deutsche Mark/Pfennig and Euro/Cent coins, and yet they list things like ducats. Huh? Turns out that the database apparently includes all kinds of medals as well. Still, quite a useful tool.
Christian
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Australia
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It's a combination of all the Krause indexes, including the "Unusual World Coins" book of fantasies, unrecognised states and other fringe coin-like objects.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Germany
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Ah thanks, that makes sense. Although it is odd in my opinion to not make any differentiation at all. How would I know that this thing for example http://www.ngccoin.com/poplookup/Wo...oinid=338891 is just a privately issued medal? Maybe they should mention the source catalog in the search results ... or have an option to exclude the "Unusual" pieces catalog. That would also take care of this GB/UK oddity. No idea why United Kingdom coins can only be found if one selects "Great Britain" (what coins would they use in Northern Ireland then?) but at least those ECU or "British euro" medals would not be included ... That being said, it still is a great resource - at an excellent price for the user. :) Christian |
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How would I know that this thing for example is just a privately issued medal? Apparently the people that put this new website together don't think it's important to clearly state the difference. I agree that a casual browser using only this website for reference would find it hard to derive the fact that it is not an official legal tender coin; the only such indication is the use of the "X" number system rather than the "KM" number system. But unless you knew to look out for that, you wouldn't know that's what it meant. The item in the above link is an "aureus magnus" bullion coin; they are listed in the UWC book, under "Germany", presumably because while there is no actual country of issue on the coin, the issuer was a native of Germany. He apparently saw his "coins" as a viable alternative world currency, and they bear coin-like features such as a denomination, so can be classified as a fantasy coin. Classification of "countries" in UWC is understandably ambiguous; they seem to follow the general rule that if the coin itself clearly states the (alleged) country of issue, then it is listed under that country, but if no such country is named then it is filed under the "usual" Krause name for the country it could reasonably be associated with, either by knowledge of its origin or by similarity in design to real coins from that country. Quote:
No idea why United Kingdom coins can only be found if one selects "Great Britain" (what coins would they use in Northern Ireland then?) "Great Britain" is the name of the entire country, as far as the mainstream Krause catalogues are concerned - even for the pre-1707 coins which technically should be listed under "England". This follows the precedent set by Yeoman, Craig and other early coin cataloguers, most of whom were based in America. UWC is unusual in listing separate entries for "England", "Great Britain" and "United Kingdom", presumably depending on the name actually placed on the fantasy coin. Quote:
...or have an option to exclude the "Unusual" pieces catalog There is a way to do that, but you have to know it's there to use it. Hover your mouse over the  button next to the "catalog initials" field in the "search by criteria" section, and it tells you the catalogues you can choose from, and also mentions that "X" numbers are from UWC. For most countries, all you'd have to do is type "KM" in the catalog initials field and all you'll get back are the legitimate coins. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Germany
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Great, that is very helpful! Duly noted & saved. As for those Aureus Magnus pieces, yes, I knew the designer and issuer (Werner Graul) was German. Interesting person - he created a famous "Metropolis" movie poster in the mid-1920s, later designed some fairly nasty stuff (until 1945 ...) and then focused on those Aureus and Argenteus medals. But I digress - now I know how to keep the "unusual" pieces out:. )
Christian
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