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I picked this quarter out of the SLQ bin at the local shop. The date is almost gone but I think I can make out a 9 as the last digit. That would make it a 1919-S, a semi-key date which I expect is worth a few bucks even in basal grade. Does anyone have any opinions? If it is a worn 1919-S, what do you think it could sell for?   |
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Is that letter transfer of a clash next to her left leg?
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06/08/2011 2:29 pm
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The pics a bit blurry around the date, but it looks like it to me. It's definitely a pre-25, and there is enough overall detail that at least a partial date should exist. Should sell for around $75.
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I see the 9, but even with the pre-25s wearing off easily, I've seen post-25s that have dates worn down quite a bit, so isn't it possible for it to be a 1929-S? Are there other die markers to distinguish 1919 from 1929 in absence of complete date?
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I see the 9, but even with the pre-25s wearing off easily, I've seen post-25s that have dates worn down quite a bit, so isn't it possible for it to be a 1929-S? Are there other die markers to distinguish 1919 from 1929 in absence of complete date? Very unlikely. I've never seen a post 25 with so much remaining overall detail combined with a barely distinguishable date. Another distinguishing factor is the style of date was completely different between these two periods. The pre-25 date, being raised on the surface as opposed to inset, usually ends up looking a lot fatter after extensive wear. If that is a "9" at the end, it is definitely a "1919" imho. |
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I did an overlay of a 1919 and a 1929 in photo shop. The shape of the 9 and the Mint Mark match the 1929 but not the 1919. The 1919 has a thin 9 and small S. The 1929 has a wide 9 and a large S. PLEASE NOTE: I'm in no way an expert on SLQs (or any other coin) but this is the way I compare coins with partial dates. Take a look and see what you think. I could be 100% wrong. 1919 0verlay: Shape of 9 and S don't match.  1929 Overlay: Shape of 9 and S match.  1919-S vs 1929-S  ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!! 
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That's a great idea Yokozuna, but I'm not seeing it. Look at the style of the "9" in both of your pictured examples. The 1929 is short and squished with thin lines, while the 1919 is taller and longer with thick lines. Compare that to Jaobler's example. Also the stars are doubled in your top overlay. I could be wrong, but I really don't think this is a post 25 slq. I would like to see some sharper pics of the "date" area though.
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06/08/2011 4:09 pm
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Wow, to the overlay. Great idea!
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I took a look at my 19S and 29S and have to say, almost without reservation, your is the 19S. The 3 o'clock star point just left of the "S" Mint Mark (in your coin, the example, and my coin) is a bit high of parallel while the 29S in your example coin and my coin is on a parallel plane with the MM. This could be die-dependent, but all three of the 19S examples have this characteristic. Given that - $75-80 bucks!
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I take it that the clash is normal, since I seem to be the only one that is impressed.
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My feeling...If it were 1929, more of the date should be visible.
That's about the right amount of the date to be showing for a 1919 in that condition
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I have to say the "9" definitely looks like a 1919 "9" versus a 1929 "9"(which to me looks a lot squattier). My '29 S date:  |
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I've attempted some close-up shots of the date. I wish I could get sharper focus but this is about the limit of my expertise. These images seem to show the bottom edge of the loop of the 9 and the inner edge of the tail. There is no question in my mind that this is a high-relief date issue minted prior to the 1925 design change; therefore, it would by default almost have to be the 1919-S.   I was intrigued by Scooby's question about the die clash so here is a close-up of that area. It does look like the inverted letters "BVS" (from E Pluribus Unum) were clashed onto the obverse. The location is just about perfect. I don't know whether this is a common event but I certainly have never seen it before. Maybe something new?  |
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There is a 1919-s that Cline calls 4238Aaa 4238AA w/Clash Mark E (EPU) @ Knee, but I don't have a picture
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With the explanation of the 2 styles of dates, I have to change my opinion. It really does look like a 1919-S! I have the twin to this coin, but without the die clash. I always thought it had to be a '29-S, but now I'm hopeful! Thanks to everyone that pointed out where I was wrong. I'm learning all the time!  ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!!
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Hmmm...I would have to trust johnny54321's assessment. I have met him personally, and have found his expertise in this series exceptional!
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