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I was looking at a couple of my 1976 proof sets (clad)
and I saw that one ike in one of the sets was a type 1 rev. and the other set had a type 2 reverse on the ike.
Any idea on the possible mintage figures on these ?
Type 1 Vs. Type 2
I keep an eye out for business strike P's 76 type 1
as well as 72-P type 2's which I have found a few already.
It gets confusing on the clad and silver ike proofs/S mints.
Some 76 proofs are silver and some are clad. Why, I have no idea.
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First off the 1976 quarters/halves/dollars were for the bicentienal, thus dated 1776-1976. Some 40% silver issues of the three denominations were produced in sets and some were broken apart. A few years had some 40% dollars 1971-S through 1976-S. The pre 1974-S were in blue packs. There were 1971-S through 1978-S clad dollars. The two types were noted because of letter styles on the reverses of the 1976 coins. I've hear mentioned (not confirmed) that type 1 were the ones minted in 1975. The type 2 were minted in 1976. If that true are not, I've never seen it in writing. You know how rummors get started.
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Thanks. You may be correct on that. The cent, nickel and dime
are all 1975's in the bicent. 76 proof set. If so, then the type 1 must be the scarcer of the two on the 76-S clad ike.
I guess :) But then both sets that I have also have the 75 n,d,q in them. Weird proof sets
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You know the minat : "Any way to make more money!" LOL (pun intended)

Those 1975 halves are hard to come by:
1976-S--Proof-Ikes

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All of the 1975 proof sets have Type I Bicentennial dollars, all the 1976 proof sets have Type II Bicentennial dollars. All of the silver Bicentennial dollars, both Unc and Proof are Type I. Most if not all of the P & D Bicentennial Ikes struck in 1975 are type I. All of the P & D Bicentennial Ikes struck in 1976 are Type II.
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LOL

I think I have a roll of those around somewhere ?

I have a type 1 in one of the sets then.

United States Proof Set - 1976 (black folding case with red
liner in black box)
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I'll try again and see if anyone can give me some info.
Here is a pic. (lousy, but do able:)
Ike from one of my 1976 United States Proof Sets. Six coin set
in the black box.
It has the type 1 reverse. The other set has the type 2 reverse. Has anyone else seen the type 1 ike in this proof set before. Does anyone know if this was common or is it scarce ?
Thanks.

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I've never heard of a type I Ike in a 1976 proof set. But that is a type I Ike.
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H'mmm

I know they minted both as you can see below. (proofs)
But was mine just a mistake in the packaging at the mint ?
Or was the box marked incorrectly ? Could it of been a 1975
proof set ? I have one other set but with no box. They both look exactly the same (bicent. S quarter,half,ike) but the other coins in it are 1976. The one I am discussing all of the other coins are all 1975 . Pretty confusing.

1976-S Clad Type 1 2,845,450 (Regular annual set)
1976-S Clad Type 2 4,149,730 (Regular annual set)
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So you are saying the cent, nickel, and dime in this set are dated 1975 and not 1976? Then in it is in the wrong box.

A proof set with 1975 dated cent, nickel, and dime should have a Variety 1 dollar.

A proof set with 1976 dated cent, nickel, and dime should have a Variety 2 dollar.


If you have a Variety 1 dollar in a set with 1976 coins, then it is quite possible someone switched the coins out. The sets are not sealed very well. With patience, they are very easy to open and reseal.
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A few years had some 40% dollars 1971-S through 1976-S. The pre 1974-S were in blue packs.


Close, but no cigar.

40% Ikes, which weigh 9% more than two 40% halves, were made in 1971s-1974s.

Unc were in blue envelopes similar to mint sets and pre-65 proof sets, except nicer paper, and sold for $3.

Proof were in ridiculously oversize brown boxes (bigger than GSA CC). The outer lid slides off, the inside has a dollar in a GSA or 68-71 proof set size holder in a brown codbod box with a die-cut hole, so you can see the reverse. They sold for $10, and resold for under issue price for decades.

76s 40% Ikes also came two ways:

Unc and proof were in sets of the three commems.

Unc were in a red envelope similar to blue packs, inside, the three coins were in mint-set type plastic, with a colorful codbod frame, unless someone has FACTS to the contrary, these $ were type II. These sold for $9, IIRC.

Proof were in a white light codbod sleeve. In it was a styrofoam block, with the coins in capsules in three die-cuts, and a foldout holder in the other part of the foam. All these $ were type I.

They pushed these first. $15 each, or $12 if you bought quantity, 50 I think. They finally melted some when they couldn't get rid of them a couple years later, IIRC.
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But then both sets that I have also have the 75 n,d,q in them. Weird proof sets


Weirder than I if they have a 75 q in them.

75s clad proof = 75s c, n, d, 76s q, h, $I

76s clad proof = 76s c, n, d, 76s q, h, $II
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Those 1975 halves are hard to come by:


Not as hard as the 75q in the post just above yours.
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Too bad the lighting angle on the '5' on that half dollar makes it look incuse.
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Oh Oh, guess what I just found in another box ?
An empty 1975 proof set box. Wonder what goes in there
Sorry about all the ado. Mystery solved.
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