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1849 Seated dollar (Possible Proof) Someone help me out. Give me your opinion. Or knowledge on id'ing a 1849 Proof. They have a couple re-strikes that were done in 1850 and 1851. Then there's the original proof dies. Multiple reverses also, I'm having trouble. It looks like a solid original die, original strike, let me know what you guys thinks. (Obverse)  (Reverse)  Someone help out... -David L. |
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Awesome those pictures were taken with my camera phone
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Pillar of the Community
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How much do you think it's worth
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Way too big to be a proof. Might be chocolate.
Pix too blurry to tell, even when shrunk by 2/3.
Thought I read recently where they now make Chinese fakes with proof surfaces.
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There are fewer than 10 1849 Proofs known. If it is one, it's....pricey. Like, 5 digits pricey. Heck, if it's a Business Strike in this condition, its' value is probably in the same range - I don't believe any Prooflike examples are known.
Are you familiar with the known Proof defects around the 4 in the date - some pits/chips in the triangle, and two differing reliefs on the vertical stroke of the 4 (lower on the bottom and crosslet, higher on the top and diagonal) - and does this coin have them? Look also for "messiness" under the chin - the die was not fully developed there.
If real, this is one of the most valuable coins ever presented for public opinion at Coin Community. I'm not necessarily optimistic - this is an extremely rare coin either in Mint State or Proof, and the consensus is that all Proof examples are known.
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No experience with proof Seated dollars, but the stars and denticles look kinda soft for a proof strike. The possibility that this is a fake is unfortunately high. Certification by a top grading service should be mandatory. They can determine whether it is a proof, a business strike, a P-L example, or something with "questionable authenticity". Hope it's real, and if so wish it were mine! |
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Its amazing to me also. I have studied the proofs from this year. And amazingly enough I can't find one reason to belive its not a proof. Ad I've authinticated it. Its perfect in everyway. Under the chin is exactly like the prof examples I've compared it to. Like not polished exactly the same. Also the 4 does have problems and the horizontal crosslet dos sit noticably lower than the rest of the 4.
Since this is such an amazing piece I will get you some really good pictures. My computer broke, that's why I took camera phone pics. But I can assure you this is 100% authentic...
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WOW that thing need to be sent in to be graded ASAP!
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Its amazing to me also. I have studied the proofs from this year. And amazingly enough I can't find one reason to belive its not a proof. Ad I've authinticated it. Its perfect in everyway. Under the chin is exactly like the prof examples I've compared it to. Like not polished exactly the same. Also the 4 does have problems and the horizontal crosslet dos sit noticably lower than the rest of the 4.
Since this is such an amazing piece I will get you some really good pictures. My computer broke, that's why I took camera phone pics. But I can assure you this is 100% authentic...
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Maybe do a weight comparison from a known seated to your pctured coin before sending it off.
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Like I said weight and size are perfect.
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OK here is the best I can do from my phone... tell me what you think, look at the unpolished curve under the chin and the relief of the horizontal crosslet on the 4.
OK, now I think this coin has been cleaned, but with 10-15 known. Even a genuine proof would bring big money. What do you think it would bring proof or business strike if it comes back cleaned.
I have authenticated it and I have never seen one with such strong proof fields. Everyone pray for me I'm sending it off this week to NGC as a 1849 Proof.
-David L.
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