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T.w. Emery Countermark On Russian 1812 2 Kopeks?

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I got this in a collection I bought from a coin shop awhile ago. I thought I have seen this countermark before, but on a US coin? Anybody have any info on the countermark or seen it before?

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 Posted 06/21/2011  10:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
mmorgan22 Interesting mix. This coin does however prove that even in the days of sailing ships coins could and did travel a long way.

The coin shows extensive circulation which is typical of many merchant countermarked coins.

The stamp certainly appears to be period (1830-1860 era) based on the font used and the nice patina developed in the lettering. This does NOT look like a Modern fabrication.

Brunk lists a T.W.EMERY stamp as (E-165) on page 378 of his 2006 edition on "Merchant and Privately Countermarked Coins" and indicates his exemplar was found on a US Large Cent dated 1851. There is no photo of that coin or any other attribution information available. But it would appear that Emery operated during the US Civil War era as opposed to the Hard Times ear of the 1830's.

During any Hard Times period when standard coinage left circulation - all kinds of substitutes were used in commerce as tokens. This coin could have passed as a cent or possibly a Half Cent - because it was copper.

Makes you wonder how desperate things were when you need to pass an old worn Russian coin as money - and only a cent.

Very interesting find - I only wish the history of this piece could be better known. Was it carried as a lucky piece by a Russian immigrant to the US? How did it find it's way to Emery's business. Who used it?

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Thanks for the info swamperbob! I knew I thought I saw this countermark before on a large cent. I believe I saw it at the Long Beach coin show about a year or so ago. Don't remember what it was valued at though. I knew that there was a book out there for countermarks. This subject has really interested me lately as I have been pulling out countermarked coins from foreign coin lots for years. I always want to know why they were countermarked and by who. I guess now I'm going to have to buy that book . Thanks again for the info!
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There's Brunk, and also Rulau (though I don't know exactly which covers what with what overlap)... Those two are basically THE modern catalogs for counterstamps, I do know that.

Looking at Krause, an 1812 2 Kopek is just about large cent diameter, and I believe from memory it's about that thickness... I would think it could pass fairly easily.

How about the Russian settlement in California in the early 1800's? Coincidentally founded in 1812:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Ross,_California
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