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Silver Eagles Or 90% Halves

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 Posted 06/26/2011  12:06 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add angel2004 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Just wondering for investment purposes what do you all think is better to have? I'm thinking more along what is best to have in a dire situation like US dollar really collapsing. Generally I can get the junk silver for 3% over spot and the eagles will be whatever on the mint site in a few days. any opinions?
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 Posted 06/26/2011  12:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mitchhailey to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Go with 90%. And in case of a situation like you are referring to, I would go with smaller 90% units such as dimes and quarters versus halves.

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 Posted 06/26/2011  12:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks. I know, I think of that as well. I am just thinking if the eagles are a similar cost, I might kill 2 birds with one stone. Have emergency money plus a collectable item. Back when silver was high, I figured the actual value of the proof sets and since silver value plus the additional coins were close to cost I did get some of the proof sets for that reason (the junk value was very similar to a proof cost) I was thinking along those lines for the eagle vs junk. I do see your point on the lesser value coins too but then again the dimes and quarters equal more wear, halves not as much and I can get either for same cost. I do see having the lower values though since making change could be an issue as well. Thanks again for your input!
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 Posted 06/26/2011  12:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silverhawk74 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have always said ASE, and think that is still great investment, but I am starting to see the beauty of the 90%, and think both is best....

I think it was Mitch above here who said in another thread, the smaller stuff like dimes, quarters, and nickels makes more sense in a trade or barter situations if it ever comes to that, and that makes complete sense to me. I love my nicer stuff, and surely do NOT wanna trade it if possible or sell anytime soon. But if the brown stuff does hit the proverbial fan, than I would like to have some of the fore mentioned stacked away for trades of, 5, 10, 20 dollar transactions, possibly for food or gas....

My local shop has quarters and Merc dimes in sleeves, and they go for like 7 to 10 bucks perhaps depending on the silver spot of course. I think I will clean them out....
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 Posted 06/26/2011  12:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for your help! I just want to see what you all think. I guess I want a little of both as well. That's why I do try to like I said kill 2 birds with one stone, get something that could be worth more than the silver content if all goes well with our country, but something useful if it doesn't. I was thinking if I could basically get the Eagels for similiar cost to the junk why not. But I do see the value of having smaller denominations in silver, too. Thanks again!
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 Posted 06/26/2011  1:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with both the ASEs and the 90% silver coins as insurance against an O-S! situation. I would use the ASEs for buying the bigger things I need, such as a week's worth of groceries or a tank of gas. Depending on the exchange rate at the time, that might take 1-2 ASEs for the gas and 3-4 of them for the groceries.

That said, exchange rates for real goods tend to be less than neat, so also having some silver dimes, quarters, and halves would be good. Not sure about nickels. Unless you get the WW II era nickels with 35% silver in them, they may not have much value. Even if you do get them, how many people out there are aware that WW II nickels even had any silver in them? Until a few months ago when I joined up here, I did not know that. I suspect that most people do not.

Although you did not ask about amounts, I suggest that you think of your coins as a pyramid, with the ASEs at the top. They would be the most valuable but the fewest in number. Then, for each lower denomination, you would have double the number of them as the layer above. A minimum arrangement would be something like this: 1 tube ASEs, 2 tubes of 1/2 dollars, 4 tubes of quarters, and 8 tubes of dimes. You could go 1-2 tubes either way with most of these since there is nothing cast in stone about it. It's just a way to get some buying power with the ability to make change in most any situation. For larger amounts, just scale up these amounts.

My collecting goal is to have 1000 ozs. of silver at some point. This would be in the form of ASEs, bars, and 90% silver coins. I only have about 74 ozs. now, so this is not an immediate goal. I would like to make some good progress on it this summer, though. I have some cash that can be converted into silver over the course of the summer, so will be buying in regular increments. Typically, I buy $800-1200 at a time but will also spend less if I find a few nice coins at good prices at the local coin shops. The hunt is on!
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 Posted 06/26/2011  5:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add throwbackid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would go with the ASE they have proven to me to be easier to sell in a pinch. If you shop around you can get a roll delivered for $750, so that is like $3 over spot. The only silver junk coin I buy is what I save for my kids. The ASE is the most beautiful coin I have ever seen, and I LOVE the heft of a roll in my hands.
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 Posted 06/26/2011  6:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all for your help. I like the pyramid idea, it makes sense. I feel now is the time to buy since who knows what the future will bring. I guess I need some more of the smaller denominations. I felt buying the halves that generally contain a slightly higher amt of silver due to less use were a good idea since I was able to get them for the same cost as the quarters/dimes.
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 Posted 06/26/2011  6:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AlmostCollectible to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I say ASE is best. Gret design, and it's all silver!
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 Posted 06/27/2011  01:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimineez to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ASE's are great, but I wouldnt pay 10-15% premium for them...stick with nice, low wear 90% for about spot if you can!
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 Posted 06/27/2011  01:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimineez to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ohh, and don't forget to diversify with some gold!
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 Posted 06/27/2011  08:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I do have a small amount of gold, but as for gold, if things really go bad I just think an oz. will be so valuable that it won't be a common exchange item. On the smaller 1/10 oz, it seems the premium is a little high that is why I have decided on silver. It's very frightening how now we seem to have a 'mob' problem often now, beginnings of what seems organized chaos. I often wondered about the 40% halves of which I have some from back in the 60s as well as finding some in rolls of halves. I wonder why when looking up pricing, those are higher? Thanks again for all your help!
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 Posted 06/27/2011  6:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimineez to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
hmm, not sure on the 40% numbers you are seeing....usually the 40% halves are 5-15% under spot...one reason I like to buy them! As for gold fractional premiums, don't forget that there are coins less than an ounce that don't carry the high premiums that 1/10 or 1/4 coins sometimes have...there are gold pesos, US commemorative $5 and $10 coins, and all manner of euro gold (french, german, british, etc). All of these can be had for near spot prices... they are not as well known, but when it matters I think those that will be buying will know what they are.
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 Posted 06/28/2011  12:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mkman123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think get both is good. Diversify!
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 Posted 06/28/2011  09:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks again to all of you. the 40% pricing I saw on monex site that lists live prices for many PM items and it seems the price is always a bit more for the 40%. I keep meaning to ask at my local dealer why this is or even if it is but that's where I've seen it. Like for example just a few minutes ago some items are silver 33.72, 90% 33.69, 40% 34.04 and Eagles $37.23.
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 Posted 06/29/2011  1:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 3stooges to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Go heavy on 90 percent, as you can't beat the low premium and divisibility factor. If you really like silver Eagles, buy at least a few of them as well. They are definitely a very cool coin. You really can have the best of both worlds.
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