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How does one insert the actual photo into their post. All I can do is insert a link to click on, like this
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I'm not positive how the uploading feature works for newer members - once you reach 50 posts, you get access to the Upload Gallery which is different - but you can use the web address of the pic you want to post along with this "Insert Image" button on the Reply screen (I circled it in red):

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When you click on the link of a pic, as you've been able to post so far, it opens in a new window. You can then copy and paste the web address of that pic from your browser screen.

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How does one insert the actual photo into their post.


It would have to look like this in the posting box....

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How does one insert the actual photo into their post.


It would have to look like this in the posting box....

[img]http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/uploaded/jeffmo/2006111417324_Front.gif[/img]





All right. How'd you do that? Oh, I see - do the embedded open/close tags break the IMG tag?

Bobby, I've successfully received Bryan's **(No Zip Files Allowed)** 's, and I'm going through them. Bryan, I could sure use full shots of a couple of those. The ones with the whimsical die polishing around the eagle's legs, and the ones with the vertical die cracks near Liberty's face particularly.
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Oh, I see - do the embedded open/close tags break the IMG tag?


Yep.


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Oh, I see - do the embedded open/close tags break the IMG tag?


Yep.






Cool. Didn't we start this thread talking about a coin I bought? Oh, yeah - if we keep the OT discussion going long enough, the thread will still be on Page 1 when I get it in-hand.
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ask and you shall receive

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was these not the ones you were needing?
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was these not the ones you were needing?



They help, but at this point I don't even know what mint produced them. The die cracks you're showing are, in all cases, not the characteristic of a particular VAM but accompanying marks.

For instance, the die polishing marks between the eagle's legs are seen on both Philly and Denver 1921's, 3F and 1BP respectively, and probably others I don't have off the top of my head. I'm still working on what goes with the vertical crack in front of Liberty.
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it is a Philadelphia coin, I thought I had mentioned that in the emails but maybe I didn't, sorry about that. I have a D minted 1921 also when you get finished with this one, doesn't have all the cracks the P coin does but still alot of cracks on it
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it is a Philadelphia coin, I thought I had mentioned that in the emails but maybe I didn't, sorry about that. I have a D minted 1921 also when you get finished with this one, doesn't have all the cracks the P coin does but still alot of cracks on it



This has all been one coin? O_O

OK. The only 1921P I'm positive has those obverse cracks (the ones in front of the face and into the neck) is 1K. Your coin has distinctive cracks around the first A in AMERICA and the wreath bow which don't match, though, and the reverse is the characteristic die from this VAM.

However, I only have about 20 unique 1921P's, so this is hardly definitive. Are you familiar with pitting and Infrequent Reeding on 1921 Morgans?
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absolutely Not! I know nothing about 1921 VAM's, but that was all 1 coin, didn't want to confuse you with more than one at a time
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OK. Here's the best place to learn about Pitted Reverse 1921P's:

http://www.rjrc.com/vams/1921%20Pitted%20Rev.htm

1921P's came with two different reeding counts, 189 and 157. The lower-count ones are all Top 100 VAM's, and there are a dozen or so. Here's what the "normal" reeding looks like:

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And here is what the Infrequent Reeding looks like:

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With the two next to each other, the difference is visible to the naked eye.
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way to complicated, aint they a different tail feather I can look at or something? anyhow here is a picture of the reeding

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I am gonna go out on a limb here and say its not abmormal reeding
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I sent you some pictures of the 1921-D though email
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I sent you some pictures of the 1921-D though email



Interesting stuff. The crack through the O in ONE (if I have that right) is new to me. The one running from the S to the O is uncommon in that location, too.

I'm guessing you would have found any of the larger cracks and breaks which characterize the known 1921 VAM's, so what we're probably looking at here are, at best, EDS versions of existing VAM's. I'm still interested in them, however, because the very worst that can happen is to build on the existing knowledgebase of die progressions. So, I'm going to be archiving your shots (I have over 500MB of my own pics of 1921's only), and you'd be doing a service if you could come up with full shots of the obverse and reverse of these coins.

Both of your coins are covered in cracks, and many of the known 1921 VAM's are the direct result of die cracking being allowed to progress. Therefore, it's very likely that these are both EDS versions of something.
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