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New Member
United States
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Hello All, I recently won an auction for a set of nickels and received a message from the seller asking me to cancel the payment because he promised his daughter the coins would sell at a higher price. "On behalf of my 8 year old daughter I would like to request that you withdraw your interest in buying these nickels. They were a gift from her uncle two years ago, and recently she got his consent to sell them on ebay because with the silver prices what they are today, we told her she would get at least $25 for the nickels. She was all excited, then sad when the auction closed at only $17 as that is far below melt value. I realize that even with the shipping cost, you can still make $2 or $3 if you sold these for melt, but I'm requesting that you forego those few dollars of profit that you could get if you sold them, for my girl's sake. I know you have made an echeck payment, which you can cancel for a full refund." Is there anything can he do if I refuse to rescind my payment? |
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Valued Member
United States
108 Posts |
He can get upset. Other than that, the only other thing he can really do is cancel the auction and refund your payment. In fact, that is what he "should" do rather than ask you to cancel payment. I would not cancel the payment. By canceling the payment, I believe that ebay marks it as a non-performance. Imagine if you cancel payment and go on your merry way, then get a NPB notice in a few weeks. In my opinion, it is best to let the seller cancel the auction and refund your money. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4000 Posts |
Well, whether he wanted to teach her about business and/or ebay or not - he did. She needs to understand that you're not gonna win them all. They threw them up for grabs and the market gave them what people were willing to pay. That said, why doesn't he just look his daughter in the eye and say "I'll give you $25 for them, honey". |
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Valued Member
United States
108 Posts |
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That said, why doesn't he just look his daughter in the eye and say "I'll give you $25 for them, honey". Or, better yet, teach her about E&O and Professional Liability and give her the $8 difference for "professional negligence" and have her sign a "Covenant Not To Sue". |
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Valued Member
United States
184 Posts |
Good way to teach his or anybody kids that the world isn't a perfect place and life is tough. You don't always get what you want either.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1150 Posts |
This sounds bogus. If it were real, he woulda done what others suggested and paid her the difference.
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Moderator
 United States
23522 Posts |
If $17 worth of nickels mean that much to you, I would contend that the seller has the smaller problem. "Principle" does not inform "morality."
There will be more nickels, and he might be telling the truth. Who are we to decide the appropriate "lesson" for someone else's child?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4618 Posts |
It was his mistake and he should own up to it. Even if he sends you the coins at the price of $17 he could make up the difference for his own daughter and she would never know. If he even has a daughter, that is.  Another thing is getting melt for War Nickels is almost impossible. I hear that it cost more to extract the silver because of the makeup of the other metals involved. Does anyone know if this is true, or was I being handed a line by a silver buyer? ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!! 
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07/07/2011 03:37 am
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Moderator
 United States
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Is there anything he can do if I refuse to rescind my payment? He might give you a negative remark out of spite but he also knows you will do the same. I personally think it's sellers remorse that it didn't make what he wanted. If he wanted $25 he should have put a reserve on them. Nickels for under melt....nice grab  |
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Valued Member
Philippines
65 Posts |
For a $17 worth of nickels, it's not worth breaking somebody's heart IF he's telling the truth. In fact, you will gain some appreciation and good will from the man and his daughter.. But if he's not telling the truth, then his honor is just worth $17.
For me, I would take the first option.. Life is too short and valuable for such things.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1150 Posts |
If he was trying to teach his daughter a lesson, this would be the perfect one to teach her: Life isn't always fair! He shouldn't be trying to set her up for failure.
The real lesson in this is personal responsibility. When you make a contract with someone, even if you are loosing a few bucks, you honor that contract.
Whatever happened to keeping your word?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7840 Posts |
If I were the seller, I would "pony up" the difference to my "daughter", and consider it a "schooling" lesson.
If I were the buyer, I would not cancel the bid.
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Moderator
United States
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I guess I am looking at this differently. I would be a little sad if my niece wanted to sell the coins I had given her.  To the GF1022, I believe that the best advice has been given, which is to have the seller cancel the auction. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1081 Posts |
I have my suspicions that he is just making that story up because they sold under melt. I wouldn't do anything. If he wants to cancel the auction, and refund your money, then let him. I would then leave him negative feedback for doing so. The seller assumes the risk of the final price, if he was so concerned and "promised" his daughter they would sell for at least $25, then he should have set the reserve at $25 or done a BIN. ebay is a business with contractual obligations. He should bear the costs of any breach of those obligations. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1080 Posts |
I would tell him you're worried about ebay ramifications if you cancel. Tell him to cancel the auction reason: item is no longer available. Then he can refund your money. Or there used to be a "mutually agreed not to sell" option, that may still work. I might even forward it to ebay and ask them what they suggest you do. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I guess I am looking at this differently. I would be a little sad if my niece wanted to sell the coins I had given her. No joke, jbuck. I thought the same thing. I know that some people don't care for coins, but to sell a gift that meant something special to her uncle? Why put it on ebay? Just tell the uncle his gift wasn't wanted and ask HIM to buy them back for $25. That would be on my mind IF I ever gave her a gift again. She would get a gift card or $10, because I would never put any thought into a gift for her. ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!!
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