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1970-S Small Date Lincoln Cent Verification Needed

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Hello,

I have never run into one of the 1970S small date Lincoln cents that are apparently worth more and are somewhat more rare than a regular 1970S.

As one can see I am uneducated on this particular coin type and require the assistance of the readers to determine exactly what this coin is.

Please explain why or why not this coin is a small date 1970S variety.

thanks much,

mdpmedia


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 Posted 07/09/2011  5:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Large Date.
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That is a large date 1970-S cent ... your clear photos show it well.

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Coops pic didnt show up but here it is:
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mdpmedia,
Your coin is a large date. I found a small date awhile back roll searching so they are out there. Just keep lookin'.
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I've search thousands of coin and never found one. I even search OBW rolls, still none.
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Another PUP for this variety is on a small date coin, the 9 is pointed on both ends,The top loop and the bottom tail, on a large date coin, the top inner loop of the 9 comes to a blunt, NON pointed end.....Check Coop's pictures above for an example of these facts....
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Your coin is a large date. I found a small date awhile back roll searching so they are out there. Just keep lookin'.



Like John1 replied....I also have found one this year....

Yours is a large date....

I'm still looking for another....and good luck to you....



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I agree also, large date 1970S

I've also been very lucky to have found one 1970S small Date Cent in a roll of circulated cents, so keep looking.

Good Luck!
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This one's a LD, but it's possible to find them in circulation--several collectors here have pulled it off--good luck! [ip]
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Your clear photos... clearly Large Date.
But in practice, if there is wear or corrosion, combined with a weak strike perhaps... telling the difference requires developing "an eye" for it. I suggest purchasing a small date or two (perhaps less expensive examples) (from someone who knows)
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As one can see from my initial closeup photos the position of the 'S' mint mark relative to the most bottom part of the '9' appears to be more similar to the small date variety photos provided by both coop and joking.

So in summary even though this is the case I would assume from this thread that the direction that the top end point of the '9' points is a stronger indicator of the existence of a a small date variety compared to the up/down vertical position of the 'S' mint mark.

If this is not the case or an incorrect assumption, please correct me.

Thanks,

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The mint mark is not an indicator because the mint marks were not part of the working die back then. They were hand stamped into the die. Therefore the mint mark could be in any number of positions. The way I tell them apart is by the shape of the loop on the 9. On a large date it is more round like a circle. On a small date it is more oblong like a football.
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Another quick indicator is LIBERTY. If you have a strong LIBERTY like in your pics it can't be a small date - all of the small dates have a weak LIBERTY. The opposite does not hold, however, as large dates can have a weak LIBERTY. But strong LIBERTY rules out the small date. Once you have one around to compare, the difference is obvious.

Oh and I found one in a roll in 2009 - it's my first "significant" find. So finding the 70S small date isn't all that impossible. Not like the 60 small date - hardly anyone has found that guy.
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Also the tail of the 7 in the date. It is lower on the large date.
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One thing not mentioned is that the small date has to have all of the attributes mentioned...not just some of them.
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