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Roman Like Coin Found In Germany In The 1980's | Lead Seal

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 Posted 07/11/2011  01:23 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add acutiger to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I found this coin as a young boy and have no idea what it is. I have asked coin dealers and they do not know what it is. One person said it may have been a coin weight. There is a rusted metal in the core of this coin, that may be wrapped in some ceramic type material. Can anyone help me?

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 Posted 07/11/2011  08:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's certainly not Roman, or ancient - the "&" ampersand (visible bottom left of the reverse) did not attain that shape until the Middle Ages.

The metal in the core looks like lead. I suspect this may be a lead seal, of the kind that was once affixed to official documents or parcels. The "4" shaped symbol often appears on company balemarks which makes me suspect "CD&C" are the initials of a company. As to country of origin, I think "Nationales" is only a sensible word in French, which would tie in with the fasces, symbol of the early French revolutionary government. I'd date it to the late 1700s-early 1800s on that basis.
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Thank you for the info! You are the first person to even have a good idea of what it is. I had a feeling it was not Roman, but my father-in-law was very insistent that it was. Any idea of finding out how much this is worth? Can I look it up in a coin book?
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As it's not a coin I suspect you'd have quite a task to find it in a coin book. It's probably more a curio and I don't think there would be a huge demand for it -- so the value will be quite small I think.
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The style of the typeface here supports Sap's opinion on date. It's known as the Didone style, and did not exist prior to 1790, becoming very popular into the early 19th C.
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This is all great information for me. I am looking to sell this so any advice as to where the best place to do that would be great. I have a call into some local coin shops. Should I look elsewhere since this is not a coin?
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Your typical coin dealer in America isn't going to know what to do with it. If you can find a coin dealer near you that sells foreign coins and "exonumia" like tokens, medals and such like, you might have a better chance.

Skimming through ebay for "lead seal", Roman ones typically sell for $10 or so, Byzantine and mediaeval period for $50, more modern ones for a few dollars.
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Thank you all for the info and I'll see what to do about the coin. If its only worth a bit of money, I should just keep it for nostalgic purposes.
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