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4 Coins China - Original Or Fakes?

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 Posted 07/22/2011  4:10 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add bobo13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Help me please!
All looks OK and tested (all high grade silver), but weight is not as described in the catalog.
coin 1: 5.0 gram;
coin 2: 5.8 gram;
coin 3: 4.8 gram;
coin 4: 5.4 gram.

What do you think - original coins, or fakes?

4-Coins-China---Original-Or-Fakes?


4-Coins-China---Original-Or-Fakes?


4-Coins-China---Original-Or-Fakes?


4-Coins-China---Original-Or-Fakes?
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 Posted 07/22/2011  6:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rdwarrior to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As far as I could tell, the prescribed weight of #1 should be 5.3 grams, and #2-4 is 5.6 grams.
Considering that #3 is very suspect. The rest maybe close enough when you take in account for normal variance and weighing error. But on #1 I don't like the dentrils, just don't look right.
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07/22/2011 6:53 pm
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 Posted 07/22/2011  6:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add weavus135 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm a real newbie in this area but weights that far off are really far off. 5.3 vs 5.0 is like 5% light, that seems to me to be a lot! Then I also was wondering how do you test to be sure these are high grade silver?
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 Posted 07/22/2011  8:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobo13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I deal with silverware and I have acid test for silver (solution). All are silver.
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 Posted 07/22/2011  9:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rdwarrior to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Weavus, Without knowing how accurate BoBos balance is,(does it only weigh to the .X? and whens the last time it has been calibrated?) and Also considering I have been told Quality control was not big at Chinese mints of this period those weights are not by themselves enough to call them fakes in my opinion.
I sill question #1, just does not look right, But 2,3 and 4 all look like struck coins (not cast), even the light one (#3) looks right.
These are not high dollar coins, 1934 20 cent Republic of China, I won't think it would be worth counterfeiting with going through that much effort.
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 Posted 07/23/2011  04:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobo13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Rdwarrior, they are really big mintage and I think also all 4 are struck coins.
Scales are ok, tested now with 2 Bulgarian lev coins UNC, 1 is 5.0, two are 10.0 gram, russian poltinnik 10.0 from 1925, russian rouble 1924 20.0 grams etc, but maybe Quality control is lower in China for this period? Maybe others will confirm that there are discrepancies in the weights...
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