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Tale Of 2 Proof Coins

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 Posted 11/24/2006  11:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm still confused about the difference in the crown on the Carolus. Granted, I only have Krause to go by, but it looks drastically different from what is shown there. Are you sure of this coins authenticity?
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 Posted 11/24/2006  1:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ageka to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Originally posted by Susanlynn9

I'm still confused about the difference in the crown on the Carolus. Granted, I only have Krause to go by, but it looks drastically different from what is shown there. Are you sure of this coins authenticity?



You may be looking at the authentic silver Carolus

No I am not sure this belgian "restrike in gold " is authentic but the weight and dimensions are correct for gold and since these coins fetch very little premium who would want to fake them in real gold .

KM 167 in the 4th edition of the World Gold Coins looks identical
( It is called Charles V in KM )
So do the coins on the two online Belgian guides

Moreover I got two 1987 coins from the main money exchanger in Antwerp who can spot a real gold copy of a sovereign whilst counting a stack of 100 coins brought in
( I saw him do that ; real neat trick ; threw out the offending sovereing and went on counting )

The two I got are one Business strike at 1 500 000 pieces the other a 1987 proof at 15 000 pieces
According to the unique belgian system the business strike is polished and therefore prooflike but without the lettres qp
I put them side a side


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 Posted 11/24/2006  1:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ageka to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Susanlynn
Without infringing on copyright is there anyway you could show me the picture you are looking at ?
I am curious because I know many mistakes in Krause goldcoins because of years they do not mention etc ( faults by ommission ) but this would be the first fault showing the wrong design

By the way
When I search I look at Pandamerica they have the 1987 same desing but oh my god the price they ask

http://www.pandaamerica.com/details...p=1&categ=15
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 Posted 11/24/2006  6:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crystalk64 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
PandaAmerica is a typical example of "preying" on those who lack the knowledge needed to buy in many areas of our hobby. And, on top of that, many national or world wide dealers charge outlandish shipping costs. It pays to shop around and compare EVERYTHING before turning loose your hard earned money.
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 Posted 11/25/2006  12:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ageka to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is not the neverending story of Payton Place starring Dorothy Malone but the last episode of Carolus V

After buying a new supply of pure acetone I started serious preservation
I forgot my carbonfilter facemask again which I use for airbrushing so I had another headache
I probably have had more headaches from acetone then from Scotch Whisky

One shotglass 75% full of acetone drop in coin and swirl for ten minutes
Clean replace acetone repeat
Clean replace acetone repeat

Now my hobby room is at 17 C and acetone refused to flash off

Three solutions

a) heat acetone to 25 C
but this is only undangerous with a labo controlled thermostatic waterbath and a turning bottle with glass stopper neither of those in my posention
b) heat the room but since the central heating is not on yet that would take 12 hours
c) So to the old trick
The heat has to come from somewhere
Put the coin under the running tapwater and turn the heat to the maximum my hand will stand for three minutes then dunk the coin in acetone for three seconds ; take out and shake vigourously without letting the coin sail through the room

Finished .
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 Posted 11/25/2006  12:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ageka to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Carolus rejuvenated

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 Posted 11/25/2006  12:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ageka to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And wow look at that reverse

I gave the ebay seller a reluctant positive with two lettres
ok


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