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George III Coin Fake?

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 Posted 07/29/2011  2:54 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Coinage123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
What do you guys reckon on this, looks like a fake to me?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...TRK:MEWAX:IT


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 Posted 07/29/2011  4:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add valdiman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fake IMO.Face just unreal.
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 Posted 07/29/2011  5:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bilnic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Would it have been on ebay USA? I notice that the seller is in the Isle of Man - surprising that it wasn't on ebay UK - or is it?

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 Posted 07/29/2011  5:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bilnic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Now I'm having second thoughts. I've "rescued" the illustrations before they disappear.

Look at the wording on the reverse - I think that it's a token from C W B & Co, Birmingham.

Tokens aren't my province, so who is going to tell us more about this item?



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 Posted 07/29/2011  6:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinage123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Would you say that it was made in 1790 or later?
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 Posted 07/29/2011  6:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
it resembles a "spade guinea", which I find to be the least attractive coin of that era.
However, it doesn't seem to be gold;
AND the legend is a bit off;
so I'd say that it's a "gaming token".
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 Posted 07/29/2011  8:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bilnic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Following a bit of searching, and with thanks to an old friend, I've come up with William Charles Bagnall & Co., token makers, engravers, etc., of 16 Hockley Street, Birmingham (England).

It is probably brass.

Bill.
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 Posted 07/30/2011  12:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think it is best termed as 'fake'.

Probably better described as 'imitation'.

George 111 imitation brass guineas were made in industrial quantities as gambling chips.
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 Posted 08/09/2011  10:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add satxwd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a game token to me. I have a bunch of George III and Victorian game tokens. The faces don't look "normal" so they were not confused with coins. However, this should sell at "token price"- $5-$10 max IMO.
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 Posted 08/12/2011  10:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add redwine to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes GIII Brass Gaming tokens.
And they came in a number of varieties.
Here's a few I quickly sorted - some are not of that era.



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 Posted 08/12/2011  10:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add redwine to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
One of the favourite hobbies of the lowly, taking the mickey out of the hoy palloy :)
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 Posted 08/13/2011  01:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add redwine to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oops, yes got that the wrong way round, difficult to think and type with a glass in your hand :)
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Not even obverse about reverse, I shall try again.
The masses (hoi polloi) and the merchant classes were having a crack at the crachy.
Now that should confuse you all! :))
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And some Victorian gaming tokens



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 Posted 08/18/2011  12:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add redwine to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd say so, the first has been braceletted, sadly.
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