Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall Royal Estate Auctions - $1 Coin Auctions300,000 items to help build your collection! Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors Specializing in Modern Numismatics Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes.








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

NGC Sure Goofed On This Attribution!

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 19 / Views: 2,048Next Topic
Page: of 2
Bedrock of the Community
DVCollector's Avatar
United States
10045 Posts
 Posted 08/11/2011  11:54 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
NGC really goofed here and somebody overspent on this auction.
One coin is rare; the other is not. The CV between the two is substantial.

The NGC slab
NGC-Sure-Goofed-On-This-Attribution!

For future CCF reference, the difference between "long" and "short" versions.
Who knows...maybe somebody will find a rare one?
NGC-Sure-Goofed-On-This-Attribution!
Edited by DVCollector
08/12/2011 12:09 am
Valued Member
bjones's Avatar
United States
304 Posts
 Posted 08/12/2011  12:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bjones to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, big swing and a miss!
Pillar of the Community
United States
1666 Posts
 Posted 08/12/2011  02:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numismat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Judging by the sale price, most of the serious bidders were aware of the disparity. NGC makes quite a few mistakes, such as one I posted here: https://goccf.com/t/90198
Edited by Numismat
08/12/2011 02:24 am
Bedrock of the Community
DVCollector's Avatar
United States
10045 Posts
 Posted 08/12/2011  12:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah--just 4 bidders. So I wonder if this was submitted to NGC as LL and they didn't bother to confirm?
So far, I have not found an NGC error in my favor--but here's to hoping!
Pillar of the Community
southsav's Avatar
2224 Posts
 Posted 08/12/2011  4:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add southsav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You would think in their business that would not occur. I know they look at many a coin, but thats no excuse.
Bedrock of the Community
DVCollector's Avatar
United States
10045 Posts
 Posted 08/12/2011  4:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To their credit, the picture isn't listed in Krause. They would need a specialty catalog; and mine is in Danish.
I'm guessing whoever submitted mis-attributed the coin, and they just went with that.
Pillar of the Community
United States
1666 Posts
 Posted 08/12/2011  8:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numismat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If they depend on the Krause books for their attribution, then god help us all!
Bedrock of the Community
DVCollector's Avatar
United States
10045 Posts
 Posted 08/12/2011  9:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Would they bother to translate other languages? I think not.
Pillar of the Community
United States
539 Posts
 Posted 08/12/2011  9:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add weavus135 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Really? I have no slabbed coins and don't plan on owning any ('cause I cannot afford them). But this seems like a pretty serious flaw. Don't you all wonder when such a mistake is made that they will goof something up that may actually be tough.
Bedrock of the Community
Bryan1315's Avatar
United States
14454 Posts
 Posted 08/12/2011  10:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have seen many 1878 8Tf marked as 1878 7TF from NGC also. They seem to be getting really bad at it also because I at least see 1 a month and usually more than that and all are from NGC
Pillar of the Community
United States
1666 Posts
 Posted 08/12/2011  10:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numismat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've notcied the same trend as Bryan.
Oddly enough, I have yet to see such a goof in a PCGS holder, though I've seen over a dozen various such goofs in NGC holders so far this year. And it seems like only the past 3-4 years that I've started seeing misattributions from NGC (though I was also not nearly as knowledgeable back then).
Some of the grading from NGC seems questionable as well. For example, weakly struck MS-65 coins of a type that is not normally expected to be weakly struck. I always thought that to get an MS-65 the coin has to be a superb strike for the type in addition to grade and surface.
Edited by Numismat
08/12/2011 10:27 pm
Valued Member
France
130 Posts
 Posted 08/13/2011  02:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add redwine to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Excuse me while I scurry off to my Scandinavian box........
Valued Member
France
130 Posts
 Posted 08/13/2011  07:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add redwine to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I didn't find one but I did find a whole bunch of silver content Swedish and this little beauty :)

NGC-Sure-Goofed-On-This-Attribution!

NGC-Sure-Goofed-On-This-Attribution!

Sorry for going off topic.
Pillar of the Community
United States
1666 Posts
 Posted 08/13/2011  2:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numismat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Key dates are always fun. =)
Bedrock of the Community
DVCollector's Avatar
United States
10045 Posts
 Posted 08/13/2011  2:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's only slightly off-topic, since it's still Scandinavia.
Wow--that's a very nice coin to find in your box!
If you have any Swedish coins prior to 1920, there are quite a few overdates.
I have posted my finds to this forum.
Valued Member
France
130 Posts
 Posted 08/13/2011  3:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add redwine to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I had some others nice finds too :)
I shall check them once more...... Many thanks.
  Previous TopicReplies: 19 / Views: 2,048Next Topic
Page: of 2

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.41 seconds to rattle this change. Forums