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Hi, I've always collected every Wheat penny I found, and one day while searching I found my first error penny. I tried to figure out what it would be called and if it would be worth a few dollars, but having some trouble trying to figure this out by myself... Here's the image of the double pressed side...(sorry, it was scanned)  |
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If you look closely, you can see the image of the Lincoln Memorial is reversed. Especially noticeable is the T from cent. This would indicate that someone has probable pressed two coins together in a vise to fake this coin. Just my 2 cents worth Steve  Edited by triggersmob
08/12/2011 11:12 pm
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Took me a moment but I see the T, and I also found the N in Cent, and its reversed. I'm going with triggersmob on this one.
Edited by VisigothKing
08/12/2011 11:18 pm
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Thought this might help  Steve |
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First off...  But,  It's not an error. The reverse over the face is flipped wrong. Sorry. Keep looking though, you'll find one someday. The US makes lots of mistakes on cent coins. ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!! 
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It is a pity that you can't legally alter coins to carry out an experiment to prove / disprove triggersmob's theory expressed here.
If the coin has been illegally altered, then legally, the faker gets away with it, because you cannot legally alter coins yourself by way of experimentation.
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because you cannot legally alter coins yourself Sure you can. It's your coin and you can do anything to it you want. That's how "pressed pennies" are legal. You can't modify a coin in order to commit fraud, but just to test the results? Go for it. If you're worried that the coin will pass to someone else that would try to sell is as a flip-over in collar double strike, just destroy it when you finish. ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!!
Edited by Yokozuna
08/12/2011 11:51 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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to the forums! I have another theory on the secondary image. The rough edges around the memorial suggest something on the surface of the coin. Sometimes, when glue is stuck to a coin, it can resemble metal. The reverse image of another cent could be impressed in the glue. Edited by DVCollector
08/13/2011 01:04 am
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I say and stick around awhile ... you can learn a lot and contribute what you can. Agreed that your coin (nice photo) is the result of someone playing games after it left the Mint. David |
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DVCollector, that would make more sense because I don't see the normal damage on the original coin. Most coins that have been pressed together have more distortion in the design. I couldn't figure out why the photo didn't show a lot more damage to the date.
Joshman20, a true In Collar Flip-Over flattens most of the original strike. The second strike will be the main image on the coin.
ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!!
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It's your coin and you can do anything to it you want. Tell the Feds your melting your melting your wheaties.  Then stick your tongue out at them.  Then tell them there's nothing they can do about it.  Then wait.  |
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Tell the Feds your melting your melting your wheaties. Then stick your tongue out at them. Then tell them there's nothing they can do about it. Then wait. I just spit Diet Big Red all over my PC!  ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!!
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I got a real kick out of that law when somehow it went flying through the courts. (Copper cent melting) Unreal. The fed tells the treasury dept. what they want then it goes unnoticed to a bunch of idiots that (not me) but you all I guess elected and they vote and then some idiot judge decides to make it a felony to melt your own cents in your own backyard. You can melt silver, gold, platinum, nickel, aluminum and on and on and that is still O.K. but if your just a poor stiff trying to make a few extra bucks to pay your bills you get the screw and shaft. I doubt very much that even the feds have the time to go snooping around peoples back yard or basements and garages arresting joe citizen for some cooking violation. So far there has been no convictions of anyone melting pennies. Most likely not even one arrest has been made either. I realize copper melters are a huge and dangerous threat to society but I think there are more urgent matters that need attending. Anyone want to buy a 50 lb. copper bust of Obama ?  |
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Very interesting that so far nobody is correct about this coin.
The actual cause of the "error" on this coin is clear glue. The coin was once glued to another coin, then the two were pulled apart and the glue stuck to this coin.
This is NOT the result of a "pressed coin" clash - if this were so, the "clashed" image would only affect the high ridges of the design and would not be anywhere near as complete.
Although this coin was correctly picked as NOT being an error, the cause of the problem was not correctly diagnosed.
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I want to take this opportunity to show some visual aid to those who misidentified this coin as being a squeeze job. The coin in this thread shows additional features on ALL parts of the design of the coin, very indicative of an added substance on the coin. The coin is this other thread: https://goccf.com/t/95358shows the 'secondary' design affecting only the highest parts of the design of the primary coin (the coin in the photo). This is indicative of something with the design (most likely another coin) placed on top of this coin (as a tool), and squeezed or hit hard enough to transfer the design from one to the other (and likely the other way around too). A REAL die clash can be seen in this link, borrowed from Lincoln Cent Resource: http://www.lincolncentresource.com/..e_Clash.htmlNote how all of the clash remnants ONLY affect the LOWEST part of the design. The reason for this is because of the negative-positive effect. Coins are an exact reverse copy of the dies that make the coins. All of the lowest areas on a coin are the highest areas on the die. So, when dies clash with one another, their highest points transfer to one another producing the clash. This transfers to the LOWEST points of the coin...high to low, negative to positive. So...a summary: Real die clashes affect ONLY the LOW points of the coin...the fields. Faked die clashes using the 'squeeze' method affect ONLY the HIGH points of the coin. Faked die clashes using the 'clear glue' method affect ALL points of the design since it's effectively "adding" a design to the coin. |
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