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1993 Full Extra Columns - Double Struck?

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 Posted 08/28/2011  10:18 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add chickenboy to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
What happened to this cent? My first thought was double struck but then I noticed the gouge on the obverse. This gouge lines up exactly where the extra columns are present.

The front gouge looks like it could have been pressed but there are no signs of damage on the rims like a typical garage job. If you think it is PMD, is it even possible to get that high of relief with a soft die?

Could jamming in the collar in any way cause the damage on the obverse?

Ignoring the full shifted columns, it could even be a DDR. Look at columns 10 & 11 at the top right of each. It resembles the 1998-D DDR.

It weighs 2.5 grams. So what happened?



1993-Full-Extra-Columns---Double-Struck?

1993-Full-Extra-Columns---Double-Struck?

1993-Full-Extra-Columns---Double-Struck?

1993-Full-Extra-Columns---Double-Struck?

1993-Full-Extra-Columns---Double-Struck?

1993-Full-Extra-Columns---Double-Struck?

1993-Full-Extra-Columns---Double-Struck?
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 Posted 08/28/2011  10:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wrongalot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
post mint damage
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 Posted 08/28/2011  8:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rachums107 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
dude lincoln shaved his beard...

thats really weird, I'm thinking the obverse is PMD but the reverse I got no idea
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 Posted 08/29/2011  02:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add augbauer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The reverse could be something new in the numismatic field. The obverse has a PMD image.
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 Posted 09/01/2011  4:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chickenboy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Any other opinions, the reviews seem to be mixed, at least for the reverse. I still don't know what to make of it with the columns that strong.
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 Posted 09/01/2011  4:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CaptainFwiffo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Are the "extra columns" raised or incuse? It looks to me like the penny was crushed in some vise or something with teeth that created column-like impressions on the reverse, but if they're raised it's something else.
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 Posted 09/01/2011  4:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Magers to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm relatively new to this but, the reverse looks like PMD to me. The distance between the "extra" columns is bigger than that of the original columns. Like I said though, I may have no idea what I'm talking about. :)
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 Posted 09/01/2011  5:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The plating is split in the area in question. If it were a die anamoly, it wouldn't be split. Looks intentional to make it look like something?
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The columns are raised but at the same time pressed into the coin which is why there is plate splitting.

Here is 2 more pics if it helps. In the first one you can see the raised column at the top right of the stairs. In the 2nd one you can see more of the splitting. I don't think I studied it at this angle before and I'm starting to think it's PMD but I don't understand how the columns could be raised.

Thanks for the opinions.

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Even if the "extra" columns occurred at the U.S. Mint, all the anomalies shown on this coin would be considered post production damage. Exactly why the plating has split on the reverse die does appear to be a mystery, but it does not seem to be strike related and it is definitely not hub related, so other than being a curiosity it would not carry a premium.

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 Posted 09/01/2011  11:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chickenboy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks guys for the opinions, I learned a little extra from this. It's funny that you start to see the coin differently immediately after some input.
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 Posted 09/02/2011  12:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It was caused by metal displaced from the teeth of a tool such as pliers or vise grips, almost certainly related to the circular impression on the obverse.
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 Posted 09/02/2011  7:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Las_Vegas_Larry to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
With bio.
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