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Chicago Newp - 1 1880-S Morgan $1 - Mistake Or Not?

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Ah. Late night. Wanted to get your opinions on these. I think I paid a bit on the er... strong side, but here's to hoping I won't have to kick myself too hard.

This is one of those "you versus NGC" things.

Chicago-Newp---1-1880-S-Morgan-$1---Mistake-Or-Not?

Chicago-Newp---1-1880-S-Morgan-$1---Mistake-Or-Not?

Thoughts on grade?
There is a large shallow hit on the cheek you can barely make out in this photo. It's only distracting from certain angles.


Chicago-Newp---1-1880-S-Morgan-$1---Mistake-Or-Not?

Chicago-Newp---1-1880-S-Morgan-$1---Mistake-Or-Not?

Does she make PL or DPL/DMPL?
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08/29/2011 12:41 am
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MS-63+
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with these pictures and the toning.. MS63 would be the best...I could see MS62 depending on how new the grading was done...
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It has a great strike.

I don't see many hits.

I think it should be a MS64/5 but probably grades MS63.

My guess would be Semi Prooflike.
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 Posted 08/29/2011  10:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D0ubl3Eagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think this coin was given a MS-63. The coin is probably semi prooflike which is typical of this issue.
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Agree, MS-63. Beautiful coin!
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 Posted 08/29/2011  10:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
64, and a good one. I doubt they called it PL, but that's a tough call from photos.
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I'd call it MS65 in terms of strike, luster, and contact marks. Certainly shallow cheek abrasions have not disqualified other Morgans from 65 grades at NGC and PCGS. However, I'd dock 1 point due to the obverse fingerprint. Some reflectivity is present, especially on the reverse. So, MS-64 PL.
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62, but I'm conservative. Are those fingerprints on the obv?
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Yes, those are fingerprints. They don't detract much for me, the "cameo" effect is quite striking on this one - the fields dark gray to black and the face in gold.

To me, it looks to have at least very nearly the same reflectivity as the 81, so I had it pegged for 64+ DMPL. It's in an NGC holder at 64.

Thank you very much for all of your assistance. It's been a great learning process for me. Again, I overpaid, but it's on me. $200 to SSEC - I didn't catch the guy's name. I honestly couldn't tell if he was a straight shooter or not but I liked the coin so I popped on it.

I got another piece from the show I'm a bit worried about, I hope you all will continue to help me with that one. Then I'll share some others just for fun that I'm very happy with. A couple of pieces more in my line of understanding.

I have to go try to take pictures now.
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despite the fingerprints, the fields appear quite clean.
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As long as your happy, that is the bottom line.
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