Are These German Coins Proof Or Regular Strike?

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weavus135 Pillar of the Community United States 539 Posts	Posted 09/19/2011 08:52 am I picked a couple of 5 Mark German coins this weekend. 1969F KM126.1 and a 1977 KM145. I did my best with a picture but ended up with just this scan. Not sure you can see it but the busts are frosty like a proof would be. these examples do have some bag marks or something but still very nice. I wasn't thinking they were proof when I got them but now that I look at them I was wondering. Anyone know these coins to be able to tell me what a proof vs a regular strike looked like? thanks Report this Post to the Staff

mmorgan22 Pillar of the Community United States 570 Posts	Posted 09/19/2011 10:30 am They are proofs. The uncirculated coins would not have any "frosty" surfaces, as you put it. They would have the same surface look through the whole coin. Report this Post to the Staff
Sander Pillar of the Community Netherlands 561 Posts	Posted 09/19/2011 10:49 am I think there not proof! I have them also and they have a "frosty" look also but there just unc.. Report this Post to the Staff
weavus135 Pillar of the Community United States 539 Posts	Posted 09/19/2011 4:24 pm OK, we have 1 for Proof, one for not proof. Anybody want to deliver the definitive tie breaker? Report this Post to the Staff
mmorgan22 Pillar of the Community United States 570 Posts	Posted 09/20/2011 10:34 am Here is a website that shows both the unc and proof versions. I only looked up the 1977 5 mark. It is number 145 on this list. Click on the pics on the side. Edited by mmorgan22 09/20/2011 10:35 am Report this Post to the Staff
weavus135 Pillar of the Community United States 539 Posts	Posted 09/20/2011 12:09 pm Thank you mmorgan. That is a great site. And these two do look like proofs to me based on those photos. I guess I'm surprised they were just in 2x2s. Great find for me I guess. Report this Post to the Staff
chrisild Pillar of the Community Germany 1238 Posts	Posted 09/21/2011 09:07 am Frosted does not necessarily mean proof. Here for example is another Gauss - unc, not proof. Note the frosted portrait: http://www.ma-shops.de/krogoll/item.php5?id=3964 And here are two Mercator coins ... (proof) http://www.ma-shops.de/schimmer/item.php5?id=2674 (unc) http://www.ma-shops.de/schimmer/item.php5?id=2635 With coins made between 1997 and 2001 it was a little easier to differentiate, by the way: In those years the proof pieces were made by all five mints while the unc version was made by one mint only. And since June 2011 it has been easier again, as the unc version is now Cu-Ni while the proof version is silver. But with other DM coins, looking at the coin itself is sometimes the only way to tell ... Christian Report this Post to the Staff
weavus135 Pillar of the Community United States 539 Posts	Posted 09/21/2011 11:09 am looking at the Gauss example, it looks like the one I have but also like the one that says it is proof. I guess I will never really know. The Mercator coins on these links are certainly not what I have as best as I can tell from the pictures. Those don't seem to have that 'frosted' look. So if looking different is a key, then I guess I'll go with mine are proof. In the end, this is about knowledge and understanding. I don't really care from a value perspective at all which they are. I'm thrilled to have them in my collection and I was thrilled to be able to add them economically. Something that is harder and harder to do these days. Report this Post to the Staff
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