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Lincoln's With Masonic Counterstamp

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 Posted 09/19/2011  5:57 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add EgCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello all,

I have seen these with a friend and I would like to know whether the masonic counter stamp increase or decrease the value of these coins?

Thanks



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 Posted 09/19/2011  6:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CaptainFwiffo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Probably decreases the value to most coin collectors, but they aren't valuable coins to begin with. They would be of more interest to someone with an interest in Masonic stuff and might have some value to them. I think they're kinda neat!
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 Posted 09/19/2011  6:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EgCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the quick reply ....... are they scarce or rare to find.... I mean do you find them in circulation or you have to go to a coin shop to buy them?

Hope I am not asking too many questions
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 Posted 09/19/2011  6:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yankee1227 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not really rare mostly because anyone can do it but they arre neat to find when searching rolls.
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 Posted 09/19/2011  7:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CaptainFwiffo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All could be found (without counterstamps) in circulation. I think I've only seen one with a masonic counterstamp, and it was incised, not raised like these.

The steel cents are probably the least common because they'll get caught on magnets in coin sorters, which pulls most of them out of circulation, but you can still find them. They were also widely hoarded, so you can get a nice uncriculated one cheaply. I see a '44 Wheat cent which is in nice shape, but a common date which can still be found in circulation. The 60s and later memorial cents are something you find every day in pocket change and not worth more than face value.
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 Posted 09/19/2011  8:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jedichef to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've done a few hundred boxes of cents over the years and only come across 1 counterstamp, and I'm still looking for a masonic one. I think they're pretty cool.
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 Posted 09/19/2011  11:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gecko to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow!
I want one!
My grandfather was a mason and I have a few of his old books.
Where could I find one of these?
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 Posted 09/19/2011  11:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First time I have ever seen one of these. Decreases the value IMO, but still would be neat to have one.
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 Posted 09/20/2011  06:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Okay, I'll give the facts - not an opinion.

Most of these sell for between $2 and $5 depending on how old the coin is.

So...if the coin was worth less than $2 before the counterstamp (which is the case about 75% of the time) then the counterstamp increases the value of the coin.

If the coin was worth more than $5 before the counterstamp (which is rather seldom the case) then the counterstamp decreases the value of the coin.

Either way the counterstamp is there, and once the counterstamp is on the coin, the coin is no longer a numismatic piece. In other words, price guides do not matter at all with counterstamped coins.
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I've just never had to the energy to answer like Chuck did.
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 Posted 03/07/2012  11:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mysterious_dr_x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I found a 1920 american penny in a bin in a store for 50¢, I got it because it looked neat. I'll try to upload a picture tomorrow. Does anyone know more about the counterstamped coins? Were they counterstamped on the year a member joined or was it any year? I'm curious about those.
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Ok well I give up trying to post a picture, but here's a link to pictures of it :)
http://www.numicanada.com/forum/vie...f=44&t=14783
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 Posted 03/08/2012  12:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
this is just one of many counterstamps that are regularly found mostly on Lincoln Cents but just about every series of coins have had counterstamps applied to them. Some of the most common Lincoln Cent counterstamps are state outlines,pipe,Kennedy and masonic symbols
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Years ago I saw where someone had a run of them. May have been homemade though. Steel stamps were about 50.00, years ago.
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