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The copper plated zinc pennies present storage challenges. In the first place, anytime you put 2 different metals together like that, you set the stage for the process of electrolysis. Putting Zinc pennies in a whitman or dansco album is like loadign the gun ... allowing the set to draw any dampness at all ... is "pulling the trigger".
I am going to get a capital plastics display card or somethign similar for my later coins at least, and probably for the entire collection since the black spots that can develop on those coins isn't especially becoming either.
If you are just now considering long term storage, it should contain ZERO cardboard. It's just unwise. I had a whitman "thumb buster" album here, and everything newer than 1982 got dumped into a jar of ammonia and water to remove the heavy corrosion, and they'll be rolled and taken to the bank. Some of them had the plating just about redy to peel off in a single layer because of impurities in the metal deteriorating right out from under the copper outer layer.
Unless folks adopt some new thinking on long term storage of the post 1982 lincoln cents, most will end up being junk. Some day a coin that they minted into the billions ... could end up being scarce. Unfathomable, I know.
Chance
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Rest in Peace
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Thanks for the warning. I suppose it is time to invest in those plastic rounds. I have tubes...for now.
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I have had my Lincoln Dansco album since 1985, so the oldest Zincolns (1982 ~ 1985) have been in there for over 26 years now. Zero problems. You mention moisture, which is very important because cardboard will suck it up like a sponge. This is why I always say when it comes to albums, where and how you store them will affect your coins! Stable temperature and low humidity are a must. Bad: Keeping them on a shelf in a hot room with open windows, especially if you live anywhere that is humid. Good: Climate controlled storage, Ziploc bags, and desiccants. With that being said, on BadThad's advice, I am accumulating a stash of red Zincolns that are being kept in plastic tubes. I have said before that I can only speak for the last 25 years and not the next 25.  |
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The local pharmacy will save all the dessicant you want if they're as friendly as ours is. I had a cat litter bucket full of the things in a myriad of different styles. The dessicant needs to be replaced from time to time. Some kinds can be dried out in the oven, some can't. The other consideration with cardboard is sulphur content. Supposedly the new stuff isn't sulphur laden, but it it does conatin sulphur ... you have the makin's of a battery. That's what the pennies I just put into circulation looked like.... like a battery had leaked on them. The only other thing I'll mention, is that as long as the guy who owned the album I'm talking about was alive ... I'm sure they were cared for. He's no longer with us....and neither is about half of his Memorial cent collection. His widow didn't know the first thing about how to store the stuff, and there were times when she had no heat.... when the place would get heated up, they probably became damp. There can be a lot of factors in play that you're not thinking of. That's why I want to use the plastic panels. Chance Edited by Chancellor Sutler
09/20/2011 4:15 pm
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The plastic panels sound good. I am almost certain they would look good. Do not forget to show them to us when you get them done. The more storage ideas, the better.  |
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I bought a footlocker trunk with a rubber seal and metal siding, with a polyester lining inside. I sealed the two air vents with bees wax, and keep a 10cuft desiccant pack in there. I live in Seattle and always have the windows open, Seems to have done an excellent job over the year I've had it.
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Well let me ask everyone this question....how good, in the long term, are 2x2 and original mint packaging for storing coins? I have all the proof sets back to 55, almost all the UNC sets back to 1960. I would like to keep the sets in their OMP if I can. And although I would love to secure my raw coins in capsules it is not cost effective to do so.
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Pillar of the Community
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The foldover and staple 2x2s are effective. You need to have the right stapler is all, or use a pen or something to seat the curled ends of the staples.
OGP works well for long periods. Best to leave them in the cellophane when practical.
Chance
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All mine are in airtites! No worries! :)
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The hard plastic OGP and 2x2 holders are not air tight. I would apply the same rules to them as I do a Dansco. Stable temperature, low humidity. Actually, I would use that rule for any storage method. |
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You are correct, zinc and copper can undergo galvanic corrosion. The process is aided by temperature swings, humidity and air. You all may hear me talk about how important a constant temperature is for coin storge, this is the biggest reason. No metal is 100% pure and changes in temperature aid the flow of electrons inside the metal, this (along with surface irregularities) causes micro-changes in the surface potentials. These changes are a catalyst to the corrosive process.
Regardless of the science, this type of corrosion would be pretty insignificant in the absence of air and humidity. So, the bottomline, protect your Zincolns well from air, moisture and temperature swings and they should last for hundreds of years.
As for the thread title, Zincolns will never be considered rare. The sheer number produced will be enough to satisfy general collector demand for virtually ever IMO. However, the true, well-struck, EDS, spot-free gems are already rare. They are the true challenge to collecting the Zincoln series.
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09/21/2011 8:17 pm
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W.A.R.N.I.N.G. to green-horn bandwagon jumpers with hoarding-leaning tendencies, and/or dollar $$signs in their eyes !Plucking a shiny Zincoln from your pocket change and putting into a tube is just wasting time, money, and space, if you're doing it for " future value"..... If you're doing it for future albums/folders and just want decent specimens.....nothing wrong with that. For the most part though, IMO, with a few rare exceptions by Lincoln experts like Thad, who have the experience and knowledge to find those rare grades....... Nobody is going to get rich "hoarding" shiny new Zincolns by the thousands in airtight materials........all you'll get out of that will be a back-ache/strain when you try carrying them all out of your house back to the bank where they belong......  Ones "stock" of materials (Zincolns and plastic tubes in this case), in time, will become so large and a bit costly, that it will cease to have that much importance, esp. upon the realization that there isn't much of a market, or ever will be, for "common" valueless Cents even though they seem to be in very good condition....... but this is just my 2 Cent rant..... 
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09/22/2011 12:36 pm
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Plucking a shiny Zincoln from your pocket change and putting into a tube is just wasting time, money, and space, if you're doing it for "future value"..... The "future value" I am concerned about is immeasurable. I am keeping them so my son, nieces, nephews, grandchildren, and any other YN's I come across down the road will have some nice coins to search through (or just coins at all, assuming pocket change goes the way of the dodo in favour of electronic payments). This also goes for the nickels and copper cents I am keeping. The cost (time and money) is insignificant and the stash would barely fill a socket drawer. I think I am okay. |
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I am keeping them so my son, nieces, nephews, grandchildren, and any other YN's I come across down the road will have some nice coins to search through That's what I meant by this.........in general. Quote:
If you're doing it for future albums/folders and just want decent specimens.....nothing wrong with that.
And as far as storage........a "socket drawer" is hardly the "hoarding" scale I was referring to ! .....  I keep nice Zincloln specimens in tubes as well....for future YN's or myself......even have several small boxes of them -- all in tubes ! And I have a large amount of pre'59 Jeffersons too ! ... My "CAUTION" was meant for true " HOARDERS". Those who might get too carried away with the notion/idea. |
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I knew what you meant, I was just expanding the conversation. |
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I keep a lot for roll building. I'm way behind on those. I keep purging them until I get a "plus" roll. Once I have several plus rolls I'll pull a plus plus roll to keep. I've pulled zincs that I know will upgrade cents I have in my collection. At some future date that's exactly what I'll do but I know to wait until I have a nice stash to look through. I've considered just buying some bank bu rolls but they can run $4 after shipping and you still don't know what you're getting. Example http://stores.ebay.com/DS-CoinsCoppers? That's different. I'm diagnosable.  |
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Posted 09/20/2011 4:07 pm
