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I picked up these three coins at our local coin club auction recently. They were just three unidentified Asian coins. Please confirm that my attributions are correct and add any information you may have. I'll provide more information later. Thanks.

Coin 1: China Yunnan ND (1908) 50 cents
Coin 2: China Kiangsu ND 20 cash
Coin 3: Japan Year 30 (1897) 50 sen

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Hi,

I'm not in my office at the moment with access to my books - but I really really don't like the surfaces or the striking of those coins.

I think they are modern reproductions - particually the top two. The Japanese one might just be wear - but it seems to have only worn on one side.
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Usually the marks in the middle are a diamond or nothing at all. strange
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Try the magnet test on these.
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I did bid on these with the expectation that they were likely counterfeits. I won all three for a whopping $1.50 total. The weights are off completely as they weigh 10.3 g, 10.8 g and 10.9 g respectively. And, as I did try the magnet test first thing, they are all magnetic. Is one of these (the second, I believe) supposed to be copper or bronze? What does the writing in the middle of the first coin say?
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Roughly translated into english it reads
For use as a fridge magnet
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Quote:
Is one of these (the second, I believe) supposed to be copper or bronze?

Correct - the second one is supposed to be either copper or brass.

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What does the writing in the middle of the first coin say?

To translate the inscriptions on the obverse of this coin:

The inscription at the top says "Yunnan province" - which is better than many counterfeit coins can do; counterfeiters often don;t bother matching up the obverse and reverse dies, so the English-language side can say "Yunnan" and the Chinese-language side says "Kwangtung" or some other province.

The inscription at the bottom is the official weight: "Treasury standard 3 mace 6 candareens".

In the middle, the four large Chinese characters are the standard "coin formula", used on Chinese coins since the Tang Dynasty. Top and bottom character's are the emperor's reign-name (Guang Xu or Kuang Hsu), left and right are "yuan bao", one of two CHinese phrases that appear on coins that mean "currency".

The four vertically-written smaller words right in the middle are in Manchu script. The left and right words are the mint name: "Yunnan Mint". The two words in the middle are the emperor's reign-name in Manchu, "Badarangga Doro".
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