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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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It is a bit like the technological battle between armour and armaments.
They develop a better gun to defeat the latest protective armour, so they develop stronger armour, so you are protected from the latest gun.
Problem is that you can't develop a better coin inside the slab, (we curiously, for some obscure reason, prefer genuine coins), but the quality of the forged coin keeps on improving.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10045 Posts |
On a related note, has anybody faked CAC stickers yet?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7840 Posts |
I saw (what appeared to be) a fake CAC sticker on the bay, it was not very convincing. The seller stated that the sticker must have gotten wet and distorted it. Or more than likely; the fake sticker was put on before the cheap ink had a chance to dry.
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07/08/2011 2:18 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
14454 Posts |
every one of these slabs are fake along with the coins inside them. There are allot more but this is the picture I could find quickly  |
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
21788 Posts |
Bryan, Congrats! Over 10,000 posts!
Some achievement!
Fair warning about fake slabs.
Other CCF'ers: read this!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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sel_691 was there a link?  Bryan 1315 10 k plus wow ! more pics please....take your time .... they'll be back |
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Valued Member
 United States
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I would like to know more as well. Both the coin and the slab are not genuine?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
526 Posts |
The new NGC slabs all have distict arrows on the top, bottom and sides. The arrows/triangles all point to the obverse of the coin. I wish I could go and grab one to explain more in depth but I am in a place where I can't get to them.
That was one of NGC's anti-counterfieting measures they took in 2008 when they made their press release.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I am not sure where I have heard this but they might of tried forging a slab with an inflated grade and a genuine coin.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I don't know of any fake slabs with real coins in them at inflated grades since the original PCGS rattler fakes but it could easily be done and would probably make the fake slab easier to pass. As long as the grade difference isn't extreme.
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Valued Member
United States
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This topic has me a bit uneasy. So much for the increased confidence factor tied to buying top TPG slabs. Are there certain coins being targeted? I've seen threads on Trade dollars and Bust Halves and Dollars. What should I look for in a faked slab? I recently purchased three slabbed coins, and this caused me to do some more investigating. Havent heard of issues with Half/Large cents, and I did locate my NGC 1810/09 Large cent on Heritage (from ebay). I can't seem to get info from PCGS since I'm not a member for my 1802 Large cent. I bought it from S. Yancey so I feel good about it. The last one is an 1804 Half Cent Spiked chin which is in route (from ebay). Not sure that one would be faked but I'm a bit uneasy overall since I'm unsure what signs to look for. Bryan's slab pics look pretty darn good. Good enough to fool a fool like me. Thank you for all your expertise. I learn something new every time I browse this forum. Ray |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The latest faked slabs are now so good I'd guess many dealers and collectors have some and really don't know. They are not only coming from China but some are being made right here.
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Valued Member
United States
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So my bottom line is this two coins being equal what does the slab artificially add to the price of the coin that is slabbed? and since I have never done it what does it cost to slab a coin with a reputable service?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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NGC (maybe others) do this thing now where they take a picture of the coin in the slab before sending it out so when you go to the web site to verify the cert you can see that the coin and slab matches the one for sale. I think it's optional and an extra fee though, and for some coins the coin/image might not be distinctive enough to tell for sure. A Mercury dime I got recently had this done when it was slabbed, and it had distinctive enough toning that I could see it was the same coin and that it hadn't been toned while in the slab (not that a 1945-D Mercury dime is really worth faking...) |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I think it's optional and an extra fee though, and for some coins the coin/image might not be distinctive enough to tell for sure.
Not optional, no extra charge. They now do this for every coin they slab. Yes, from my understanding the recent photos are enlargeable soo you can see the coin better. This was not true of the early photos. |
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