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Pillar of the Community
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Two things that actually are novel in that they're attractive: the flying eagle on the back of the original Sacagewea, and the removal of the date from the obverse on the current Sacawaega. The eagle looked quite classic, and the absence of the date gives it a cameo-like appearance reminiscent of the 1837 dime.
Edited by jpsned 10/23/2011 10:26 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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How would you guys rate the current circulating coin designs? My take: Lincoln Cent - Classic Obverse - Poorly Implemented Reverse Jefferson nickel - Face forward obverse recalls Sacagawea, I'd be for it if this meant an overhaul for the look of all coins - I think the Liberty and In God We Trust are unartfully implemented. Roosevelt dime - I'm fine with it Washington quarter - You know my thoughts about the flattened text cluttered obverse... It's terrible. Also against the rotating reverses Kennedy half - The design is ok- only being minted for collectors so it's hard to really consider it a legitimate coin in my opinion- and I'm a high end Kennedy collector. Sacagawea- The most attractive coin in production- and in this case I think the reverses are beautiful. This is the best modern coin- maybe the best design since the Peace dollar.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: Worst coin the mint has ever minted.. In my book it has to be the 911 commemorative. It's not a coin, it's a medal. Quote:I think the government was hoping for some hoarding of the State Quarters by the public so that they could crank out the quarter by the billions and hoping the public from each state and collector would hold quantities of each to reduce the number in circulation You bet that was what they were hoping. The Treasury Dept had fought change in the coin designs for decades claiming it was a bad idea, and that having more than one design in circulation at the same time would confuse the public and that they wouldn't accept the unfamiliar designs as real coins. They fought the State Quarter program tooth and nail but it finally got passed. Then the public fell in love with the idea of finally something fresh and new and they began hoarding the new coins. The governments senoriage profits went through the roof as mintages skyrocketed. The Treasury Dept did a complete 180 and now multiple coin designs were just great and were to be encouraged! So we got multiple nickels, let's do a President dollar series with multiple designs each year to encourage people to use (or hoard) the dollar coin! (They didn't realize that people noticed the quarter designs be cause they USE the quarters! Changing the designs on a coin no one ever sees does not encourage them to use it.) Let's give the Sac dollar multiple designs too! Four designs for the cent! The State Quarters are ending, gotta keep it up, let's do it again with national parks! The problem was by the third of forth year of the State Quarters the novelty of "fresh designs" had worn off and mintages have been headed down ever since. And it didn't help that the economic down turn resulted in tons of coins getting dumped back into circulation, combined with the Fed's discontinuing of the banks being able to order resulted in a huge decline in the demand for new coins. Quote: If the government wanted to get serious about circulating coins and phasing out the $1.00 bill- why don't they make a dollar coin that has some intrinsic value. Why waste money on intrinsic value? If you phase out the dollar note people will use the dollar coin whether it has intrinsic value or not.
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Valued Member
United States
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I think a few posters have hit on this already, but you can go down this list, Morgan's, Buffalo nickels, & Franklin halves designs were not liked when they were produced, and there are usually complaints about something on every coin design (initials on the Lincoln Cent & Mercury dime). In fact when Buffalo nickels came out people HATED them. People would say they were ugly when they were new and that they would be hideous after they had been circulated for 20 years. I personally view that as 1 of, if not my favorite, coin design of the 20th century. Maybe coins are like fine art, it usually takes a while until it is appreciated. Personally I love the designs of the ATB Quarters, but I wish they had gone back to the original Washington quarter front. What I really don't understand is if we are in so much debt, why do we continue to go to the expense of redesigning coins all the time?
Edited by Rewster 10/24/2011 2:50 pm
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Quote: If you phase out the dollar note people will use the dollar coin whether it has intrinsic value or not. I agree. Poor design is not the reason why dollar coins fail to circulate; their competition with the one dollar note is.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I dont know about you guys, but when I find a bu brown 1964 LMC with a nice high relief, I am happy! In contrast, the cents of the 80s and 90s, they are downright ugly low relief zinc!
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United States
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I agree our modern coinage can use some improvement. They need to bring back lady liberty and not represent our presidents as kings. That is why our founding fathers didn't want people on our coins and it should have remained that way. About comments on that are coins are just for spending, misses the point, that our coins represent our country, so we want something that people look at and say nice things about them. Our coins and paper money are used all over the world. Quote:
What I really don't understand is if we are in so much debt, why do we continue to go to the expense of redesigning coins all the time? Because the Mint knows that they can sell the new designs for a huge mark up to collectors and they are hoping people will hoard them from circulation, so the Federal Reserve will have to tell the Mint to increase circulation. Hence the Mint makes more money. They need to make a profit, since they are self funded. And with the loses on the cent and nickel and no dollar coins for circulation, they have to work really hard at making a profit now. Hence why they are now making a BU S quarter.
Edited by wquinn 06/05/2012 12:33 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I think the biggest thing is that we have let our designs get stale. That the mint is altering the designs is a baby step toward what needs to be done, though, as simple alterations to existing designs is not as good as a full scale redesign every 25-40 years. On our currently circulating coins - Cent: I like the shield reverse more than I liked the memorial reverse. Get Lincoln off the coin and get some new ideas for Liberty, though, and we're talking. Or scrap the coin altogether, ideally. Nickel: Not a fan. Nifty change with the different perspective on Jefferson, at least. Better to change to Liberty. The most recent design for the nickel that I actually like is the design of the three-cent nickel. The five has never left me feeling pleased about the design. Dime: Stale by this point. Reverse is still good, but could do with some modernizing. As a matter of course, returning to Liberty would improve the coin. Mercury dimes are the best dime design, though, but if it can look half as good I'll be just as happy. Quarter: Stale obverse. Too much text and the rejiggering didn't make the coin look as new as the mint and Treasury would like to believe. Standing Liberty is the best design aesthetically, so perhaps a new Liberty taking some cues from that. Reverse - get the parks done and stick to a new reverse. At least the parks look good. Half-dollar: Good looking coin, not minted for circulation anymore (unfortunate). Either something to stop minting or something to change. Walking Liberty was a great design. Cues from that. Dollar coins: Finish out the presidents and go back to one standard. I'm okay with the reverse design on the Presidential dollars, but the Native American reverses are much more appealing. Again, let's return to Liberty, taking cues from the Peace dollar (easily my favorite portrayal of Liberty on a dollar coin). I'm okay with a shifting reverse on the dollar, once per year. Kill the dollar bill and get the coin out in circulation, though. In short: Liberty over presidents, some designs are okay or even good but could stand some modernization, change designs roughly every generation to keep things from getting stale.
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United States
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Today's bland coinage designs makes me love the classics all the more! Although the Dolley Madison commemorative is a beauty (and on my list for modern commem dollar for my 7070)! The Mississippi State Quarter is nice too (on my 7070 list as well)!
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Coin collectors and dealers can say good, bad, great or horrible for a coins design. Really makes little difference since the sale of all of them is still up, up, up. If you check the USMints web site you would see they are making all sorts of just STUFF in coins and for coins. If you check out the Whitman Publishing web site you would see a massive pile of books, Albums, Folders, etc. There is that little baby sized dollar that just goes nowhere. A dumb shield on the back of our pennies that has the artistic appeal of a worm. Coin material that has really gone down hill. All makes no difference since so many coin dealers, Album and Folder makers, 2x2 flip makers and all the rest of the companies that make coin stuff show that massive profit. All the TPGS's that are getting rich on this coin collecting craze. The main thing is regardless of who likes or doesn't like out coins, there are many companies getting rich on them. Not to long ago there were hardly anyone making anything for coins. Today, look around you. Buisnesses for coins are everywhere.
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New Member
United States
39 Posts |
I agree that our modern coins need some sprucing up. The american eagles are modern classics.
However, I was very mpressed with the proof 2012 Star Spangled Banner Commem silver and $5 gold coins. I also liked the recent 2011 US Army commem. showing the revolutionary war soldier, WWII soldier and modern soldier on the reverse. The uniforms are exact representations.
The 9/11 Medal was aweful.
It may be time to change the reverse of the half dollar, nickel and dime! If Teddy Roosevelt were only here!
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I think it is time to get all the dead presidents off our coins. The liberty designs were for the most part much better. I don't think we should reuse the old liberty designs though. There are bright people who can come up with new designs just as nice as the classic coins. While they are at it, why not take the dead presidents off the paper money also. Time for a change. My favorite current coin is the Native American dollar. I like the idea of changing reverses once per year and the designs are pretty good. The ATB Quarters are much better designs than the State Quarters, but most people never see them. That is a shame. If the Fed would allow banks to order them, it would increase exposure significantly.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It's time we got another president like TR that cared about such things and started another coinage/medallic design renaissance. More reverse proofs might help inspire artists and collectors alike, and not just on the old Walking Liberty design either. Just about all our coins are tired and ugly, except for the quarter's park reverses and the classic, but seldom seen Kennedy half.
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 United States
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Quote: The liberty designs were for the most part much better. I don't think we should reuse the old liberty designs though. There are bright people who can come up with new designs just as nice as the classic coins. Well said. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I like the shield cent reverse. I think it is simple and classic. We didnt need the 2009 designs though. Just concentrate on one at a time. I do NOT like the new nickels however.. I think a profile is better than Jefferson facing you. Dollars... meh.. the first SAC was okay, (reverse especially) but the rest are overkill. Quarters make me want to throw things at puppies. If you crack a roll of them you are likely to find 20 or more different designs. when will that madness end?
I think if new coins struck for circulation were made with more care and of higher quality materials they would all look better. Everything looks better in proof or high relief.
Also, I LOVE the Peace, Mercury, walking Liberty designs. Buffalo was good too. I think the reason those have become so well liked is because they had the good grace to die young. 10-20 years would be a good life span for a coin design id say.
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