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 Posted 12/27/2012  7:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ancientcoinguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The crud has almost become one with the coin. I soaked it in olive oil for six months to no avail, and I also put it through several hydrogen peroxide baths. My constant picking with dental picks has not dislodged anything. I am begining to doubt myself, which is why I posted this here. Is anyone comfortable enough to try acidic gels? I don't trust my hands enough for that.
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 Posted 12/27/2012  7:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't believe that there is much more that can be done to the coin without causing damage to it.
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 Posted 12/27/2012  7:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add elfof4sky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To my untrained eye the crud appears to be the coin. There is nothing to clean off.
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 Posted 12/27/2012  8:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The cond coin is what it is. You risk damage if you try "harder."
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 Posted 12/27/2012  9:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unfortunately so. Will you be keeping it as is, or going for the corrosive method?

And hey, a little birdy told me that beaten up coins are still accepted in some collections...

EDIT: Hang on - could electrolysis do something here? The patina isn't at risk, after all.
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12/27/2012 9:29 pm
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 Posted 12/27/2012  11:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DavidUK to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I decided to pass on the Menander coin... it is a lovely coin but it a gamble whether I can remove the muck, also I am super busy at work so maybe I will have the money to buy one already in pristine condition if I see it.
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 Posted 12/28/2012  09:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TJsCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would just throw it back in olive oil. Pull it out every 6 months to check it. You may just be surprised. I personally believe electrolysis should be a last resort because it destroys a coins original patina. But if you are not concerned about original patina and you are not concerned about having bright brassy coin, electrolysis may be the way to go.
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 Posted 12/30/2012  11:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DavidUK to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That menander coin has been playing on my mind, so I ent the seller a message...

I asked if he had tried an acetone bath... I also asked if he had a retail outlet because he is close to me and he said it is a post business only.

I was hoping he might try the acetone (if it worked I would buy the coin) or I could see the coin and decide whether to take a gamble that it will come off...

He said he didnt try anything and that was that. It could mean he tried and failed or it could be he didnt try and won't try.
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 Posted 12/30/2012  11:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Depending on what he asking. I would buy it as is. Its got character and a nice strike well centered and a decent relief. Go for it, if the price is right. In hand you might want to do nothing to it. I persoanbly dont think it detracts from the coin. Kudos on the Menander. Its becoming one of my favorite series of coins.
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 Posted 12/30/2012  11:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DavidUK to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I almost went with that, but when I found he was 1 mile from my house I didn't want to give my address and changed my mind.

My gut just tells me its a bad idea to give my address to someone who lives so close to me, maybe its paranoid but I listen to my instincts, to find a similarly good coin maybe I will have to pay more in the future but I guess thats what I will do.
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 Posted 12/30/2012  2:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coin Addict to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is an interesting coin. It could very well be a fun challenge.

I agree with DavidUK to not give out his address. I keep my location secret from everyone but my absolute trusted friends.
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Ok, I'm about to break taboo here and say the "e" word. Electrolysis will probably work on them. You have to be careful and avoid use of salt on bronze coins as the risk of chloride intrusion is too great. Use baking soda. It's gentler than lye or acetone and very effective if done right. You've already removed most of the patination anyhow. I use my little rig on stubborn Byzantine bronzes with lots of hard cake on them with pretty good success. Electrolysis will clean the crud off that Indo-Greek silver above with no problem, may leave some discoloration where the deposit was.
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 Posted 12/30/2012  7:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ancientcoinguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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You've already removed most of the patination anyhow.

Not I! I bought it in this condition and I hoped I would be able to finish cleaning it myself. To this date I have failed in my mission. I will try electrolysis. Thanks for the baking soda lead....I had not heard of that before. I will post after pics once I try it out. Can't hurt it anymore, anyways!
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 Posted 12/30/2012  9:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jcmworld to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Always try your rig and electrolytic solution with a junker coin, like a crusty Wheat penny, before putting in anything decent so if the polarity is wring you only ruin the penny. Also,don't disconnect the power with the coin in solution, pull it out and then disconnect power.
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