Wall Street Journal Gold Article

Libertad-Umm.. I think you are taking this too personal, and I dont care to discuss about human rights and everything else. Thats not even related to this thread. It sounds like you have an axe to grind with America, not me and thats all I am going to say. you need a hug *hugs you* :D

That said, the dollar is going to get stronger. Gold and silver should continue to act as a currency, and to others as a hedge, thereby motivating the elite in China to purchase gold and silver.

Sorry but that's not going to happen. China growth and topped out and is slowing.

China is a has been and markets are moving on to other world economies that have more growth than China.

So again, no, China's rate of growth has slowed down, its not going to surpass the US. Mark this post.

China becoming the world's greatest economic powerhouse is a given. To say it's not going to happen shows you have your head in the sand and don't know what you are talking about.

It's simple math. Their growth rate is double ours and will continue to double, or even triple, our growth rate over the next decade. There is no other country in the world with that kind of growth. It will continue because all of North America and Europe buy their goods cheaper than we can produce them.

I'm outta this discussion. "A fool convinced against his will, is of the same opinion still."

http://www.futureofuschinatrade.com...-us-gdp-2016

http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/S...-before-2020

http://www.economist.com/node/21528987

http://www.businessinsider.com/oecd...e-us-2012-11

Been a teacher. Understand the education system. Its been hijacked by ignoring the facts of the US history in favor of socialistic values.

Socialism (which Marx himself said has a goal of communism) has historically produced systems like the USSR - Union of Soviet Socialist Republics )note that although they were the largest known communist power - their name does not use the word b/c the words are very interchangeable on many levels). Remember what happened to them when we American capitalists got in an arms race with them? Their system crumbled b/c that system, by definition, does not reward hard workers with more of the profits. So impetus to grow gets stifled by sharing the wealth. Whereas in capitalism, the worker gets rewarded for his abilities/effort instead of taking the extra he makes and giving it to people who are not working as hard.

China is as big as it is now b/c of US manufacturers trying to find a way to keep costs down to be competitive. Red tape and over-regulation has killed US manufacturing - it is very difficult to find the right balance.

It is our money making the Chinese government rich, and note the common workers in this socialistic-ally designed system are not the benefactors). Socialism looks GREAT on paper. But b/c of absolute power corrupting absolutely, it can never stand on its own and has always ended up worse for all involved. This is history - not opinion.

And as to the US never falling...

History has shown over and over that all leading world systems (Rome etc.) fell apart when the traditional, basic family unit becomes not the "norm." The country falls apart from the inside out. Take a good look around and see what is happening here today. We are not bullet proof - unfortunately - and are continuing in a direction away from what made us a world leader with each passing day.
Someone who ignores actual lessons of history is doomed to repeat them (paraphrase of a famous quote).

I am looking at precious metals and have to admit I believe there is a good deal of manipulation by the powers that be to keep PMs lower. I don't think the system likes people having their own real wealth anymore. If the economy would fall flat, and people had holdings of actual value instead of fiat money - then reliance on authorities is lessened and potential control is lost. CCF threads have helped me understand what is likely going on and where to go to research the issue farther.

@yup: Since you're unwilling to accept emails or private messages:

Trust me, I don't take anything personally, even in person, let alone the internet. I'm trying to get you to step outside of your bubblish world but you're very stubbourn and you talk yourself in circles. Good day.

PS. I love America but not when it spawns zombies. There's so much wasted potential, it's quite sad. Why so anti-China? (That's rhetorical BTW, I'm done reading these tunnel-visioned responses.)

Its beating a dead horse at this point but saying something will never change is foolish my friend.

Ill make one last point. Your mistaking individual company weakness for weakness as a whole which it does not have. If market strength is your indicator then we arent a super power either. Our markets are propped up by international companies such as apple and world players like google.

I do understand how the markets work and I've said all along that your right at this moment we can do no wrong. However I also understand history. Rome was once the sleeping giant that no one messed with until its was deemed weaker and people started poking at it. As much as China needs our money from sales we need their goods hence the stalemate. Theres no downplaying their influence in the world or the markets though. North Koreas leaders have power solely because China says theyre untouchable, thats a minimum a quasi superpower.

As of now they buy our debt but they have resources (as of now their the worlds largest rare earth metal supplier) and they have both military and economic might. The world changes a lot over the years and circumstances change. 30 40 years from now nothing says that circumstances will be the same. Empires have risen and fallen much faster than the 200+ years weve been around and every single one of them thought they were bullet proof. We are no exception and human behavior is rather predictable hence the existence of Game Theory. Technology changes but the human behavior is largely unevolved from ancient times. The day wont be tomorrow or this year or probably the next 20 years, but the odds overwhelmingly state that one day we will fall because we do think we can get away with whatever we want economically.