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Wow very nice. Hope the pics come out clear
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I was torn between the VAM3 and VAM5 listings. I thought the second C on yours looked like it was dropped below the level of the 1st C. The full coin photo of the reverse VAM3 has the second C level with the 1st. Ddave is much more of an authority on Morgans than I am. I'm just a collector hooked on VAMs. Good photos of the date and mint mark taken perpendicular to the coin will certainly help with the attribution. As for the question regarding the VAM listing, I2 is the interest level for collectors to pursue a particular listing with 1 being little interest and 5 being very interested. R6 is the estimated rarity (population) of a given die pair at time of discovery with 1 being common and 7 being rare. |
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Ddave is much more of an authority on Morgans than I am. I beg to differ; you are too modest.  Rob, the best thing you can do is get a relative closeup of the mint mark, as perpendicular as you possibly can get it so we can determine the exact placement of the two C's. Also, something depicting the gap between the eagle's left (viewer's right) wing and neck. This is a pickup point for differentiating between VAM-3 and VAM-5. Part of the problem we face, though, is the lack of complete detail regarding VAM-3. VAMming is very much a work in progress - heck, it won't be complete during our lifetimes - and fine image detail is lacking in many cases. |
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To me from your picture the bottom of the right C does appear to come down further, whether or not that is a VAM I have no idea though |
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This is my first time here, and I don't see anything that throws up red flags diagnostically. Sending this to PCGS is a must. Incredible coin!
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I am, quite frankly, beginning to worry a bit. Those C's in the mint mark are too close together. With that said, I think I see the characteristic line between the neck and wing at the right location for VAM-3, and that would be very difficult to counterfeit. Rob, can you confirm that line is there visually? http://www.vamworld.com/1889-CC+VAM-3http://www.anacs.com/contentPages/S...kieSupport=1For that second link, see "Reverse B" halfway down the page. |
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Dave, how many mint mark positions are known on the 89-CC. The weight wasn't terribly out of tolerance(that is if the OP's scale is not right on). You would know though before me anyhow :-)
This would be one heckuva coin for you to examine at F.U.N.!
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Dave, how many mint mark positions are known on the 89-CC. The weight wasn't terribly out of tolerance(that is if the OP's scale is not right on). You would know though before me anyhow :-) Three, plus the VAM-1 "normal" position which might not exist. This looks good for VAM-3, assuming the mint mark is properly spaced. Quote:
This would be one heckuva coin for you to examine at F.U.N.! That would be nice, but even if the OP were willing to part with the coin, there's no way to get it there in time. |
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Your referring to High line in wing gap? That small line that goes diagonally from neck to wing? Left, slightly higher on neck and right side lower on wing... Then no... I can't visually see that on the coin.... You guys are killin me. LOL. The suspense is making my adrenaline go up and down.
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Dave, from the example I own, and the picture 89CC example in the Highfill book dealing with 89CC counterfeits, The OP's coin CC mintmark does not match mine or Highfills example. I believe there are two reverse dies known, and maybe 3?
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Also, this is interesting to me as I just saw, last month, a 1880CC changed to a 89CC that someone showed me at the local show up here. It was about the same condition as this coin XF-AU with slight toning. This could be an added mintmark, but, I don't see it in these photos.
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