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1858 Flying Eagle - Worth Cleaning?

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Toothpaste...a little dab between your fingers and rub like crazy, just keep working it. Try it on a Lincoln first and you'll see real shortly what it can do.
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IF you decide to try to remove the gunk - in light of other not being able to ruin the value farther - instead of scrubbing it right away, it might be smart to try other solvents such as gasoline, turpentine, kerosene, ethanol, etc. But I would only expose it to it for a small amount of time to see if one of these hit the correct chemical combination to hopefully dissolve the black stuff. Who knows, you might hit on one that the black stuff is very susceptible to and therefore is lifted right off of the coin. It still would be a cleaned coin with no less value than it has now, but at least it would not have scratch marks from rubbing.
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I think it is always best to start with the least abrasive solvent than move on from there like starting with distilled water, verdi-care, and acetone then move on to more abrasive methods like vinegar and salt or others.
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Of course there is one other thing to consider here. If the condition of a coin as it sits nullifies any value it would have had, then I do not mind making it look presentable by cleaning it. At least then I have a decent looking, worthless coin.


Sometimes a cleaned presentable coin is worth more I would think since someone may want to buy it if it is presentable. Of course you can never get the market value of a problem free coin. If you could have a nice looking coin with problems or an ugly coin with problems, which would you choose? Would it be worth a few bucks more to you?
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If you could have a nice looking coin with problems or an ugly coin with problems


Not a choice I have to make because I have patience.

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I have same coin as yours given to me by my WW2 veteran grandfather.
Other suggest white vinegar..but I think it's very acidic.

The simple answer is, you shouldn't try to clean old coins yourself. Anything you have at home that's more potent than distilled water and a soft cloth will end up harming the metal even more than the crud that's already on it.

You might show it to a couple of dealers at a coin show and see if they have anything that might help restore it professionally, but it's pretty doubtful. Restoration is usually only practical for extremely valuable pieces such as coins recovered from a shipwreck. Given that a large-letter 1858 Flying Eagle cent retails for about $35 in VG-8 condition, the cost of conserving it would probably exceed its collector value.
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The black stuff ia most probably a very heavy patina of INorganic copper sulphides, chlorides and oxides.
If that is the case organic solvents won't have any effect.

The black stuff can be removed, and I won't say how, because the coin will obviously looked cleaned, with a gauranteed loss in value.
If you REALLY want it cleaned, seek professional advice. Remember, most ancient coins need to be cleaned after being dug up. Some of these are unrecognisable before cleaning.
dragonheart7 is right about cleaning costs, unless you have bulk lots of coins needing cleaning, as with ancients.
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