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What Happens To Gold And Silver Next? Look Out Below?

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 Posted 12/07/2016  6:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ilikeikes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@ Terry8835...MY 2 cents worth on your question: In the "Old Days", basic rule was STOCKS DOWN...GOLD(thus, Silver) UP...THESE days, it's ANYONE's Guess...I could list 5 MAJOR events this year, that, if they happened in say, 1979, GOLD right now would be well over 1500, due to the issues involved. THIS year, everything is the opposite...BAD NEWS is GOOD NEWS, as they say. MY opinion on all of this is pure "Monkey Business"...I don't G.A.S. what anybody else may think about corruption, and, manipulation in the FX Markets and Bullion Markets, to me, it is rampant, and, bad news, and, happened again this week with Italy Referendum. Euro UP/Gold Down...OPPOSITE of what SHOULD have happened, under "normal" circumstances. The fact that the Paper Gold Market is so unreal(500 to 1 ratio), and, so easily manipulated(all the big selloffs happen at the same time of night, at certain times of year, mostly when China's markets are closed on vacation), who knows what will happen anymore. I think you WILL see massive profit-taking on the stock exchanges soon...and, a LOT more close to Inaugural Day, which, when the smoke clears, SHOULD be good for Gold. As usual, only time will tell.
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 Posted 12/07/2016  6:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MontanaCMR to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@terry,

Thanks for sharing. It sounds like you have made some good decisions. Congrats on the success.
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The other day I mentioned how silver was diverging from gold. Silver made a range break today on a shorter time frame, out of a base. Keep on eye on this, if it can build on this and move continue to move higher.

Gold continues to stay in a range, could it be ready to follow silver? Time will tell.

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 Posted 12/08/2016  10:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BuckeyeCoinGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Deutsche Bank Provides "Smoking Gun" Proof Of Massive Rigging And Fraud In The Silver Market

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-...ilver-market


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In the document records surrendered by Deutsche Bank and presented below, traders and submitters were captured coordinating trades in advance of a daily phone call, manipulating the spot market for silver, conspiring to fix the spread on silver offered to customers and using illegal strategies to rig prices.

"Plaintiffs are now able to plead with direct, 'smoking gun' evidence,' including secret electronic chats involving silver traders and submitters across a number of financial institutions, a multi-year, well-coordinated and wide-ranging conspiracy to rig the prices," the plaintiffs said in their filing


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 Posted 12/08/2016  11:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ilikeikes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yea, like we all turned a blind Eye on all of this? No...still going on as this being written. My hope is someday, the Miners form their own exchange..run BY miners, as a consortium, with NO futures, and, real-time-real bar sales, to stop the madness.
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 Posted 12/09/2016  10:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yup7676 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Silver still keeping its gains and holding above the range it broke out of on a shorter time frame.

Gold on the other hand, is pushing for the lower end of its current range, and should 1158.60 break, lower prices are in store.

Will be interesting to see if this divergence continues between silver and gold and which one will be leading or following the other.

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 Posted 12/09/2016  3:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yup7676 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I sure hope someone here bought some SWC when I mentioned it was at 52 highs last week.

BTW, for Zach, if that SBGL does hit 52 lows soon, I think it would be better to bail on it than to let it go lower.
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 Posted 12/11/2016  7:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add terry8835 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You know when stocks, or any other financial assets are hitting record highs it is like a herd of cattle. Anything can spook these markets and you have stampede for the exits. Most of my limited success has been based on luck and just buying and holding for years. To me the fastest way to lose your money is to trade a lot in any market. Hot tips are usually slow poison. If you think gold or silver will be selling for $2500 an ounce or $50 an ounce, respectively, in ten years then start stacking it. These gold and silver major bull markets don't come around that often so you got to be ready. There was one in the 80's and it took about 30 years to have another one of major proportions. At some point there will be a major sell off but who knows when? I guess this is why I say to take some profits if you have them but don't get out of the market completely. Be it PM's, stocks, real estate it will crash and it will come back. The smart money buys when there is blood in the street.
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You boys herd cattle, the old lady city slicker asked the 2 cowboys in downtown New York...."Yes Ma'am--they go MOO-MOO"
Yes Terry, the stampede is on..into equities...perhaps another 10% upside to go before a probable top. Everything has a top. What happens when, who knows. It is mind-boggling to read about billions in pension funds running from bonds(understandable) to stocks..at such inflated valuations...it would be like me piling in on Silver Wheaton near the top..but, yikes, not knowing the true top was just 4 days out, then, kaboom. Which is why Livermore(and Mr. YUP) like the staggered buying approach, to lessen the blow when these last purchases are made.
The breaching of numbers, when stocks start to decline, may be much more intensified this time down, due to the extra billions involved...money in-money out. Eventually, the cycles all come around, like you say. Violent moves, may be an understatement for 2017 trading.
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 Posted 12/12/2016  1:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yup7676 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So bit of congestion here for gold, broke that 1158.60 today and bounced. still in a range.

silver- after falling briefly this AM back into the range that it had just broke out of, its once again back above the range from last week, holding its gains from last week.

either this range holds or doesn't, simple as that. the direction that range breaks will be the next move for the PMs. This divergence between gold and silver will resolve itself also.
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 Posted 12/12/2016  2:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverTracker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@ Yup, quick question. Is it better to buy 1/10 ounce gold bullion coins at this time or should I save up to buy the 1/4 ounce gold bullion coins which would take me about 2 months to do? I don't want to risk losing out if the price starts climbing again, but the premiums on the 1/10 ounce coins are higher than the 1/4 ounce. Whats your opinion?
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 Posted 12/12/2016  6:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jmgi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
SilverTracker, Using American Gold Eagles as the example, depending on where you buy your 1/10 oz., they are about a $24 premium over spot right now, maybe a little more. Gold would have to go to $1400/oz. for you to break even. For the 1/4 oz., premium right now is about $40-45 over spot. So, gold would only have to go up a little less than $200 above is current price for you to break even. This shows the 1/4 oz. as the better overall deal IMO.
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 Posted 12/12/2016  6:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TMCD75 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fractional gold is a bad buy/investment for this very reason. The best buy I've found is actually the 1.257 oz Mexican Peso. Its premium is fairly low and you get a nice hunk of gold.

I'm playing the long game with my gold. Ive just got enough to be a small hedge.
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 Posted 12/12/2016  8:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MontanaCMR to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Terry, great post.

I agree and am hoping silver drops under $15.50 so I can start buying physical again. It's been difficult to keep with my strategy of only buying below my average cost, but it's helped me avoid chasing prices.
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