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 Posted 08/27/2013  2:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ThisIsFun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My 15-shekel arrived today, wheeee! It is much nicer in person. It measures 45mm, don't have my scales with me at work so I can't doublecheck the weight. The details are much more clear than the seller pics. I am thrilled!

I have searched high and low for comparisons but am finding none other than a picture reference at http://www.magnagraecia.nl/coins/Pu...ugitana.html

This coin was graded by NCG. Thankfully, it wasn't slabbed. Came with a photograde card and a note as to the reason it wasn't slabbed: "too big". Duh!

With such a huge canvas, I wonder why the designers didn't put more features on this denomination.

iPhone pics :)

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 Posted 08/27/2013  2:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dutchgulden to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow thats huge! very cool coin!
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 Posted 08/27/2013  2:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


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 Posted 08/27/2013  2:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dutchgulden to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Especially cool it is of Carthage, who strucked normally very small coins
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 Posted 08/27/2013  2:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well to answer your question...

Late Carthaginian coinage was not made to appease the appetite of the savvy Ancient coin collector, it was coinage of necessity, after a couple hundred years of warfare between, Greeks,Libyans and Romans, precious metals all but disappeared.In the last 200 years of the Dominion coins were struck in basemetal, Copper,bronze,billon,potin and whatever could be melted into the shape of coin, for use in the homeland. Most of the gold had been recoined by the Greeks and the silver recoined by the Romans. Near the end of the Dominion, even the ladies of Carthage surrendered their jewelry to the pay mercenaries of every creed to defend the North African coast. There was little left of value to support commerce and coins of an unknown amount of denominations and sizes were struck. If you think about it considering the fiscal nightmare and looming destruction that the Phoenicians faced, they struck coins much nicer than those struck by other later empires whose power was waning...*cough* Rome.

Daaaang that coin is PHAT, in more ways than one.

Also imagine a giant coin like this with the bust of lets say Honoris or Zeno, tell me what kind of price that would command.
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 Posted 08/27/2013  2:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I always recommend that site to people....notice what the population of that coin. (not that every example has ever been accounted for on the site)


FOUR!! I have seen only one other!
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 Posted 08/27/2013  3:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
BTW TIF-

I recommend this book...

http://www.amazon.com/Carthage-Must...p/0143121294

The best one I have ever read on the subject of Carthage!
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 Posted 08/27/2013  3:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Whizb4ng to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Why the heck are e-book prices so high now. It is not like they have printing fees associated with them.
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 Posted 08/27/2013  3:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Now that is what I call a coin. Something to play with all day long.
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 Posted 08/27/2013  4:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ThisIsFun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, it's OK. Think I'll use it as a ball marker next time I play golf.

NOT!
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 Posted 09/06/2013  10:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ThisIsFun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Scored a lot of 12 'Ptolemy bronze' coins, just arrived today. Some aren't Ptolemy, but that's fine with me-- one is a COL-NEM

It was a complete surprise. The listing had just one photo showing 8 of the coins in a jumbled pile. The description only said Ptolemy bronzes, mostly Zeus-Ammon with eagle reverse. It did say that one of them was 47mm and that's the main reason I bought the lot.

My good camera's battery charger is defunct so here's mediocre iPhone pic of the lot, plus an edited shot of the Augustus & Agrippa COL-NEM. And yep, that jumbo Ptolemy is now my biggest (diameter) coin, 47.5mm. At 91.8g, it's a little lighter than my Carthage 15 shekel, which is a mm or two smaller.

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Nice pedigree for this lot, too-- ex Professor James Eaton Collection:

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Professor James R. Eaton (1834-1897)
James Eaton was born the second son of Reverend George Washington Eaton, D.D., L.L.D., who was the president of Madison University (now called Colgate University) in Hamilton, New York. James graduated from Madison University and the Hamilton Theological Seminary and, though he was ordained as a Baptist minister, chose teaching as his profession. He became a professor of mathematics, natural science, ancient languages, and theology, and in 1868 he accepted a position at William Jewel College in Liberty, Missouri. He served as the head of the Department of Natural
Sciences for 28 years.

By 1897, his increasing frailty convinced James that he should take a sabbatical, and it had been his lifelong dream to visit the Holy Land. He set sail from New York, but tragically suffered a heart attack shortly aer arriving in Cairo. He died a few days later on March 20, 1897.

Professor Eaton was an enthusiastic collector, and in addition to his extensive cabinets of minerals and geological specimens, he spent 30 years collecting coins. He created many different sub-collections, including a complete collection of Biblical coins, a collection of the earliest gold, silver,
and bronze Greek and Roman coins, a portrait collection, a collection of early American copper coins, and many others.

The last coin was integrated into this impressive collection back in the 1890s, meaning that this collection has been off the market for more than a century!

The coins eventually came into the possession of James' son, Hubert Eaton, who was the one of the founders and presidents of Forest Lawn Memorial Park in Glendale, California. Hubert periodically displayed the coins at the museum there, along with other family sculptures and art.

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 Posted 09/06/2013  11:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Julia your killing me! Those are some fantastic coins. I have been collecting for a long time and still haven't acquire some of the coins you have. Congrats I love them.
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 Posted 09/06/2013  11:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ThisIsFun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


I'm going to have a contest soon to appease the numismatic gods. Maybe you can win one of these

Debating the prize or prizes now. Probably a Ptolemy bronze (not a jumbo) and/or a Philip II or ATG bronze.
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 Posted 09/06/2013  11:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll give it a try.
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