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there are also some suspicious gold coin singles for sale over the past few weeks. They dont offer a COA or any original packaging and are asking full price over 1400 ...i would suspect any gold single coin sold without original packaging...once you pay for it your money is gone and I'm sure paypal wouldnt give it back ..right this minute I dont see any of the above but they do appear it would seem
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/2013-75-Sup...em3f3a731553is this a fake gold superman?..if you get a straightedge and run it along the tape line to the coin you can see this coin is closer to 30 mm which is closer to the the diameter of the fakes..This listing is mighty suspect.......and this is the one I was referrring to in my last post above..it has been relisted now for the 3rd time with no takers at 950.00 starting bid so I guess I'm not the only one thinking about its authenticity..The seller claims to have bought it as such and you have to wonder if he got scammed early on and is trying to make good...once you pay for this coin and then perhaps discover its a fake it may be impossible to get your money back because you would have to prove it was the one you bought.....and you would be just another victim of the china fake business on ebay..
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I think that one looks a lot more real then those cheap big knock offs on ebay. The diameter is right and the weight is right. I would say its real. But isn't that sad that he cant sell it for a decent price because no one trusts that if its fake or not......just another reason why I don't buy coins from RCM any more....... |
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The listing say he is the original owner and bought it new. If so, where is the box and COA? This and the fact that he is an ebay seller with low feedback who does not deal in coins is putting off people. |
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 Suspicious. No original box and COA - for these type of coins is a must. I think, he got fooled with this coin. Might be, the coin on the picture is real, but this isn't the coin, that the buyer will get. |
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They are also stating under the detailed item info that the images are courtesy of PCGS... So who knows what you are getting.
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I wouldn't go near that coin with a 10 foot pole, even if it is "real" which is highly unlikely you will have a super hard time trying to sell it without the coa and org box, with 2000 mintage and a $700 plus org price I cant see someone having "just" the "coin" but I guess stranger things have happened.
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For those few who believes that fakes help improve any items being copied, this sale reflects exactly why the original producers spend endless funds to protect their products. Soon the originals will become issue price if the RCM's policy of doing nothing. |
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Quote:Soon the originals will become issue price if the RCM's policy of doing nothing Regardless issue of the fakes, but the above - the situation that should be. Without any speculations (yes, I understand, that buyers willing pay more and this is normal). |
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The only way this seller can get close to his asking price is to have the coin slabbed or have it documented xrf, by not TPG this coin, most likely a fake. |
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Quote:For those few who believes that fakes help improve any items being copied, this sale reflects exactly why the original producers spend endless funds to protect their products. Soon the originals will become issue price if the RCM's policy of doing nothing. I disagree, as I have said all along with only 2000 mintage the real gold superman coins with coa and box etc will stay at a high premium, yes maybe you will need to have it documented etc etc but all these fake/replicas will spread /advertise the "real" thing which "could" make them even more valuable. We are not talking about brand name handbags etc that have unlimited production rates. Plus as with any high value item you should have it verified before you buy , you shouldn't buy a $2500 item on ebay sight unseen anyways at least I wouldn't. But as always only time will tell. Edited by Northerncoins
08/03/2014 11:35 am
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If this was true, then 99% of famous brand product are waisting their time and money on battling fakes, for what it's worth, some of the most expensive handbags have very limited productions. This example is really simple for the seller, spend about 70.00 get it graded by a TPG, then listed it for around 2000.00, and probably sell quite quickly or why would you list the way it is unless it's a problem coin. |
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This is from his listing Q:Â Hi there! I'm interested in this Superman coin but I'm wondering why you don't have the Royal Canadian Mint's original COA and box. How are you able to state that the coin is Guaranteed Authentic if you are missing these? There have been a flood of fake versions (mostly made in China) recently and unfortunately your coin appears suspicious. I would appreciate receiving further clarification. Thanks very much! 03-Aug-14 A:Â HI thanks for the inquiry. We moved and during the move the box was thrown out. This was a gift from my mom, and I have the original email receipt/shipping confirmation from mint.ca, which includes the order #. An independent test would also verify its authenticity.  I like the box was thrown out must had the coin in his pocket during the move. |
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Quote:If this was true, then 99% of famous brand product are waisting their time and money on battling fakes, for what it's worth, some of the most expensive handbags have very limited productions. This example is really simple for the seller, spend about 70.00 get it graded by a TPG, then listed it for around 2000.00, and probably sell quite quickly or why would you list the way it is unless it's a problem coin. Well "Limited Editions/productions don't mean alot if your coming out with a bunch of new "limited Editions" every month or so. I think of Jerry Seinfeld when he was joking about the Ford LTD - he said "yeah it's limited alright - limited to 5 million!". But ya if that guy truly has a "real" superman gold coin unboxed with no Coa then he needs to get it graded/ verified for a buyer to take him seriously. Edited by Northerncoins
08/03/2014 4:02 pm
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Quote:A: HI thanks for the inquiry. We moved and during the move the box was thrown out. This was a gift from my mom, and I have the original email receipt/shipping confirmation from mint.ca, which includes the order #. An independent test would also verify its authenticity. I like the box was thrown out must had the coin in his pocket during the move. Could be and if so what is the going price of an unboxed/ no Coa "real" gold superman coin? maybe we will find out...or not lol. Plus if he is that careless of the box then I suspect he likely popped open the capsule and man handled the coin as well...so ya definitely needs to be graded. I think I am losing interest in his coin even if it turns out to be "real"..... Edited by Northerncoins
08/03/2014 4:13 pm
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