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Best I Can Get On A $400 Budget? Help

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 Posted 01/09/2017  7:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add andywoj00 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Tritones....this is my setup using a T6i and a modified B&L Microscope A-Stand that I got from Ray (rmpsrpms). I put a longer extension piece on the focus rail, along with adding an aluminum block to get it somewhat centered over the stage. If I use a bellows, I don't need the spacer block.

I took a pic below of my cell phone with my Canon 18-55mm lens, with the cell phone itself being approx 3"w x 5.5" l. Not sure how big a full coin slab is, but I wouldn't think it's bigger than this.

Using this type of setup with a native Canon lens, or a stand that'll give you alot of distance using an enlarger lens, you could probably get full slab shots. The quaility of the pics is pretty decent too. I tried using extension tubes I had along with 75mm enlarging lenses on this rig and could not get a full frame shot of my phone...need too much height, and my setup won't allow for it.

However, if I use a bellows with this stand along with my T6i and a 75mm enlarging lens, I can shoot ASE coins that are nearly 41mm no problems. Not sure if the added height from the bellows rail would allow for full-framing slabs. I don't have any slabs to test on.

I guess it all depends on what type/size coins you'll be shooting...YMMV. Hope this helps a bit.


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 Posted 01/10/2017  12:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pepactonius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Pepactonius: Have you had any luck using a mobile device such as an iPad with your T6s in place of the live view with standard computer?


I have an Android tablet and smartphone, but I've never tried to use them with the T6s. I'd rather shoot tethered to to the Windows desktop/tower with lots of disk space to store the photos. In addition, the desktop has large (2560 x 1440?) monitors for the live view.

I'm not at all familiar with the Android file system (even though Android is supposed to be based on Linux) and how you'd get files uploaded to there or offloaded from there to the desktop.
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 Posted 01/10/2017  12:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coin197 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just handhold my Nikon D3300 for pictures. Here is one of my pics.


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 Posted 01/10/2017  12:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coin197 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I use a 18-55 mm lens BTW.
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 Posted 01/15/2017  4:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BigKidsKollect to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have seen lot of different responses with a lot referring to the <$400 but if your resources and understanding of photography are limited, how do you proceed? I mean to start minimal and take steps into getting better with imaging is everyone on this threads' idea. For me, I dont want to invest now on equipment but would like to start to step up from amateur. What I have is:

iPhone 7 128gb
photo light box with 2 lights
laptop (Dell)
3 in 1 Pocket-size black/grey/white balance cards(incoming from ebay)

Where do I proceed from here? I would like to get:

USB microscope(recommendations needed as this will primarily be handling 19th century coins)

Thanks in advance,
Dan

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 Posted 01/15/2017  4:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MS69 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would like to ask for advice concerning coin photography in the context of other venues I would want to use some of the same equipment. First, my coin collection is numerous, contains many PCGS & NGC slabs, gold & silver coins, Nickels, pennies, and very few modern era clad coins except in OGP. I have Proof & Mint sets for every year since 1958 (Year I was born) along with other Mint products. I also have a good supply of raw coins in tubes, some of which are nice uncirculated coins. Other interests of mine include 2 1960's Camaro's. The 1960's muscle car hobby also fascinates me in that I am one who really appreciates those who have NOS ( New Old Stock) parts still in original manufacture packaging, original correct parts that have the right part # and many also have a date code which must precede the build date of the car. As such I would also like to use this photographic equipment to record and document the valuable pieces I have accumulated and their attributes. Using a camera stand & lighting for small parts would also work here. 3rd area of interest I have recently developed is a fascination and addiction to Ancestry.com. Here I would like to be able to photographically record existing photo's and documents to place them in my gallery and make them available in high quality to others, either on Ancestry or Flickr. Last thing I should mention is that I have become disabled and so for me to stand and take photographs will be very difficult, as I can only move horizontally while upright with either a cane or a walker, so use of a tripod and maybe remote activation would be very necessary for stability. Just want to make the best choice overall as I look for the best equipment. If that is too wide a range for 1 set, please tell me and I'll adjust my thinking.

Loren
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 Posted 01/15/2017  4:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Canadian-Banknotes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
For me, I dont want to invest now on equipment but would like to start to step up from amateur. What I have is:

iPhone 7 128gb
photo light box with 2 lights
laptop (Dell)
3 in 1 Pocket-size black/grey/white balance cards(incoming from ebay)

Where do I proceed from here?

The iPhone is more than capable of taking high quality images, you should check out this thread.
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 Posted 01/16/2017  06:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ham1947 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If anyone is interested in a nice Vivitar Bellows, (4) enlarging lenses any extra supplies, you might want to take a look at my listing on ebay. Link below.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VIVITAR-BEL...AOSwZQRYeiXq

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 Posted 01/31/2017  06:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TobyJ to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello all, I've set myself the challenge of setting up the $400 dollar budget at the start of this thread. I would really appreciate it if someone could take the time to check that this is all the right gear?

I'm buying:

Canon EOS 450D / Rebel XSi 12.2MP Digital SLR Camera - Black (Body Only)

This enlarger lens:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nikon-EL-...AOSwImRYdOsQ

This Adjustable M42 Lens:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Adjustabl...AOSwCGVX8UNc

This focussing Heloid:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/M42-lens-...AMXQlgtRssia

This M39-M42 39mm-42mm:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/M39-M42-3...AOSwstxVFCGI

Can't currently find these, appreciate it if someone pointed me in the right direction...
(M42 extensions, 2 sets 7/14/28mm:)
(M42-RMS Adapter)
(Nikon M5 or Plan4 objective:)

I've got sturdy copy stand, 5500k lights.

May need help assembling it if I get stuck.

Very excited :D
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 Posted 01/31/2017  07:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
-M42 extensions
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/42mm-M42-Mac...55&meid=711f937438064861a5da3ba6b4c32337&pid=100011&rk=5&rkt=8&sd=190847411563

M42-RMS Adapter
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/171039346816....m1497.l2649

The Nikon M5 or Plan4 objective is not required unless you want extreme close ups....its basically a microscope lens and can be purchased later if you want to go that route.
Here is an example....
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/NIKON-M-PLAN...AOSw241YVMP0
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 Posted 01/31/2017  07:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pepactonius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That link to the Nikon M-plan objective is for a 40X/0.65 objective. 4X to 5X is much better for coins. 10X is also useful at times, but watch the working distance.

A 40X/0.65 objective has lots of magnification, but probably has a very short working distance (meaning it will be hard to light the coin -- maybe epi-illumination would work, but it's too advanced for me).

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 Posted 01/31/2017  07:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks pepactonius...I think this one would work better....
Nikon M5 http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Nikon-M5-NA-...AOSw65FXr5QQ
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01/31/2017 07:26 am
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 Posted 01/31/2017  07:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TobyJ to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for those links. Annoying that you can't get the parts in The UK, shipping can take weeks from China / Hong Kong. I'm guessing the plan4 objective M5 is for such extreme close-ups that display depth of lettering etc. I won't be requiring that to start with, just trying to capture some really quality photos of coins. Just bought the camera (body only) for £97 including postage from UK, very good start :D
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 Posted 01/31/2017  07:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pepactonius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is that second link for a chroma-free Nikon objective? It looks like the old type of Nikon objective (like the non-metallurgical objectives used on the old Nikon S-era microscopes), which required color correction in a matching Nikon eyepiece. This one is "M" or metallurgical type (i.e. optimized for no cover slip and perhaps longer tube length), so it could actually be chroma-free despite its old-fashioned outside style.

I'm no expert on old (pre-CF) Nikon microscope objectives, so perhaps we should wait for rmpsrpms to come along and clarify things.
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 Posted 01/31/2017  07:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was in the same boat...I live in Canada and a lot of these had to be bought from over seas. It was a waiting game unfortunately
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