More Fake NCLT Coins Duck & Robin

That's great, just need about 4999 or so members to reply, it will make a difference when enough people contact them, especially the members with reps, only takes about 10 minutes.

I've reported about 6 today. I also contacted about 3 buyers of fakes, and alerted them. I did talk to CSR Saturday and he wasn't helpful on the matter. It would be great if we could get the email for the master of the mint. Too bad a mint Rep wasn't at the counterfeit talk in TO.aybe we could drop off letters at thre boutiques for master of the mint.syne he'd think it was fan mail lol. Thanks everyone for the interest in this topic . Our collections are at stake. I wonder if encouraging dealers to write in on the subject too would help! It's their livelihood that will be affected. I'm starting to wonder why buy overpriced silver., when I can admire the art on a $4 knock off. What would happen to the hobby if people started thinking this way & acting on it?

I know there are a lot of fake's out there. From clothing to even tennis rackets. It's a battle companies have been facing and mostly losing for a long time now. But RCM is a Government owned entity I would assume defrauding the government should be a major issue. Is this not the same as making fake currency.

Why is the assumption that the RCM and the RCMP are doing nothing? Do we know that, or is it just the default assumption?

This is a huge problem but very large and powerful organizations like MLB, NHL, NFL, NBA and companies as large as Tommy Hilfiger, Louis Vuitton, Coach and many, many others can't stop (primarily Chinese) counterfeiting.

Yes we should be diligent but expecting a grassroots movement or government intervention to have any affect is, IMO, naïve. All we can do as consumers is not buy counterfeits. If no one buys them, they will disappear.

My assumption, that for the big corporations all those cases bring more profit, rather then loss.
By letting some part of the fakes and "replikas" to stream to the market, they (companies) spread and penetrate their products to wider communities of consumers. Kind of "free sample" - "Do you have the poor made replika? Now buy our genuine item!".

Take a look at Microsoft, that "distributed" unprotected Windows in 90's and 2000's (Corporate editions ..etc)
Games, musics - the piracy spread all those to all, generating a huge traffic (and broadband companies and providers enjoy from it).

Who suffer from current situation?
Collectors - partially yes. But collectors have a genuine items. And some of them even collects replika.
Collectors with extremely low budget? Will you tell to someone not to buy the "Titanic" for $5 case it fake? But the person may not have $100 to spend.

Resellers? Oh yes, directly. They lose, since they try to sell for $100 and their neighbor sell for $5.

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And do not think, that I protect all of these, but here we play by the same capitalistic rules of big profit, demand, and the fact that loyal customers (us) will buy anyway ...etc

I've seen plenty of cloned sports jersey. They sell for roughly 20% of the official product and you would be hard pressed to tell the difference. No one who bought the counterfeit item would ever then go buy 'the real thing'. In those cases, the sports teams are losing 100% of the profits. They actively attempt to stop the trade, with the help of government authorities, yet they cannot stay ahead of the counterfeiters. Why? Because of their own greed.

The problem in that case is that the major league sports are asking their fans to spent over $200 for a product that should cost no more than $50 (based on the materials and inputs involved). There is simply too much room built into their inflated margins for 'others' to replicate their products and make huge profits. I believe that the same applies to many designer brands and to NCLT coins.

But that said, I encourage everyone to do whatever they can to keep counterfeiters off ebay and the like but don't expect that Canadian authorities will have any influence over foreign activities (especially in China). The only hope is that the RCMP and CBSA can intercept counterfeits before they reach consumers once the products reach Canadian shores.

I'll also add that it's ironic to me that coin buyers (more so on the red forum) will openly discuss tax evasion when buying coins from the US or other provinces yet are outraged to see counterfeits in the market.

Mr. Marshall and SGT. Tony of the RCMP has worked on this issue for well over 6 to 7 years, the RCM has really done nothing on the counterfeiting. There seems to be more reaching the markets now, although all popular products are copied, the owners of the trademarks and patents protect their items by asking the RCMP and CBSA to seize items at border or mail sorts centers when they can prove infractions. The owners of the harmed products like Rolex, or RCM needs to ask for the government agencies to act, not having its loyal customers to battle the issue. If the RCM cares, they would have asked the RCMP and CBSA to act and most of these fake coins would be seized at mail sorts or border crossing there are two main Chinese manufacturers. Like I said before, do you see knockoff iphones sold openly on ebay?

That's absolutely correct.
But what to do, if it relates to collectibles, there are many people that want the item, but can not to buy it (no budget, or it rare). so what they are doing?
They buy "something looks like desired item"
Coins, watches, parfume...and even the stickers on the car that make appearance of the top-class vehicle (didn't you face someone in Honda, which is actually not bad car, but with huuuge home-made spoiler, invite you to make a race?)

So, according to consumers demand, there is someone that ready to give the supply. And with supplier need to fight.