Help Identifying Arabic Script Coin

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sjh241 Valued Member United States 386 Posts	Posted 08/28/2014 11:35 pm I had this coin(?)in a small box of coins that required identification. Well, that box is empty and only this one is left. I come close, but I can't nail it. I'm not sure if it is a coin or some sort of medal. I'm fairly sure it is a fake. I dislike having something around I cannot identify. Does anyone have an idea about this item? Edited by sjh241 08/28/2014 11:39 pm Report this Post to the Staff

Sap Moderator Australia 16873 Posts	Posted 08/29/2014 12:40 am Yes, we can help. And yes, your suspicions about it not really being a coin are correct. It's a "jewellery replica" of an old Ottoman Empire coin. Specifically, an old silver coin from what we now call Algeria. Do a forum search for "Imitation Ottoman Algeria" and you'll find quite a few have turned up on the forum before; they always cause confusion when found out of context. Coin #2 in this thread is similar. As explained in the other threads, these pieces are made for wearing as part of traditional Middle Eastern women's festive garments (think "belly-dancer costume", if you're still having trouble picturing how they might be worn). They are not designed to be a deceptive counterfeit to fool either a modern collector or someone in Algeria in the 1800s, but to only resemble a coin at first glance. The hole is placed there by the manufacturer. The original base-silver coinage this piece is copied from look more like this example on zeno.ru; the mint-name has become illegible and the date even less legible. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
sjh241 Valued Member United States 386 Posts	Posted 08/29/2014 07:46 am Thanks Sap. I was close. I narrowed it down to Ottoman Empire with a high probability for Algeria. The hole was the indicator that is was a fake as it was obviously made during production and not afterwards. If it is a replica of a silver coin from the 1800's I'll go back to my books and see if I can find the original. I was looking at non-silver and gold coins. That would explain why I was getting close but not finding the exact one. It is a replica of an exact coin, correct? Report this Post to the Staff
Bacchus2 Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2896 Posts	Posted 08/29/2014 08:08 am I think it's bettered termed a jewerly piece in the style of an Ottoman empire coin. My Papal States coin collection: https://diadumenian.com/Papal%20Sta...0States.html Medieval coins collection: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...0Europe.html Indian Rupee Collection: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...0Rupees.html Minor world Silver: https://diadumenian.com/Congressofp...20coins.html Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16873 Posts	Posted 08/29/2014 5:48 pm Quote: It is a replica of an exact coin, correct? The design is similar, yes, but the script is blundered. You won;t find a genuine coin that looks exactly like this; the one I linked to is pretty much as close as you'll get. Your second pic, for example, is supposed to say "Struck in Algiers, 1238" or similar, like the one I linked to does; but yours actually says "Struck in (mumblemumble), ]2#". Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
sjh241 Valued Member United States 386 Posts	Posted 08/30/2014 08:57 am Thanks. That would explain why I could get close but not an exact match. Report this Post to the Staff
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