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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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It definitely looks like a coin with one side sanded off. The side that was sanded off somehow got retoned to a similar brown as the other side. Probably put back into circulation and the sanding marks got worn off.
Edited by Altaira 01/15/2015 6:43 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Welcome Rocky to the forum on the obverse there looks to be long scratches directional from forehead to shoulderish making me think as earlier mentioned that the reverse has been sanded off and or mechanically removed, IMO PMD.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
2428 Posts |
Hi rocky and welcome to the Forum.
I am not trying to burst your bubble however there are some incredibly well informed error collectors here that are trying to tell you something. I have to agree with them on their opinions. Please, I hope you stick around as there's oodles of free learning information here.
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Valued Member
United States
319 Posts |
Quote: so I can tell you it is real. I want you to clap right now. But you can only use one hand. Think about it. 
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Valued Member
Canada
329 Posts |
Please don't think people here are being rude or ridiculing your coin. I know you may be steamed because you really think it is a real error and people here are saying different. please do bring it to spp ottawa at the show. I'msure he will not steer you wrong.put it this way, if I looked at it and thought it was legitimate, I would make you an offer, so if he doesn't, then it probably isn't.
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Moderator
 Canada
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OK... the obverse looks..... interesting. I really cannot say more without better photos of the obverse or seeing the coin in hand. From what I can see it is either:
- centre broadstruck on a Type 1 planchet and a uniface strike
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- post-mint manipulation of the rim and reverse
Please drop by my table at Coin Expo, and we can discuss the coin in hand, possibly with several other error collectors and experts who tend to hang around my table. Oh yeah - one more thing...  to CCF
"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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thank you all so much.I know what I have because of the weight of the coin and the composition of the coin itself when you look at the unstruck face. plus the thickness but like I know every body has and opinion. I have a few more coins.I will show you them later. thank you all so much. this also give myself and opportunity to learn more from all of you coin collectors. have a great one
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
2784 Posts |
oh yes I will drop by your table. I have a gentleman who will be coming from Alberta as well to see the coin, he has a couple of collectors that wants to see this coin as well he wants to help me with the sale of this coin. he is very well known in the Coin World you will know him.
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Forum Dad
 United States
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Maybe someone can explain this to me. How is it even remotely possible for one side to be "unstruck?" The coin is "struck" by being sandwiched between two dies. If one side is "unstruck," to me, it would be impossible for the other side to be "struck." Like Pawn said, try clapping with one hand.  I understand that capped dies can cause something similar, but a dead smooth surface like that? I don't think so.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4846 Posts |
I believe it can happen if two coins get into the die bobby, but even then there would be some dis-figuration to the fields, as well as a fully upset rim
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Forum Dad
 United States
24192 Posts |
Yeah, I guess your right Adam, if they lined up perfectly. Wonder if they would get fused together though?
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Pillar of the Community
3772 Posts |
Just as a thought exercise:
What would mint employees have to do, to fabricate an error like this in the mint?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
2783 Posts |
pic of coins stacked together - top coin definitely thinner than the bottom.
pic of "non struck" side - even in low resolution it appears there are lines indicating sanding/grinding.
SPP is your guy - but I wouldn't get your hopes up
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Welcome to CCF Rocky I'm leaning towards sanded off maybe old Magicians coin. I too have to ask what happened to the rim? It was there when the planchet was blank both sides, I would assume. Oh well anyway your taking it to the right place..SPPs table. Thanks for sharing that interesting piece.
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Moderator
 Canada
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Yes, I know both Alberta error collectors well. One of them is a member here (Zonad)... good luck.
"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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