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Rare Unstruck Penny King George V Era Dates 1920 To 1936

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 Posted 01/15/2015  6:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Altaira to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It definitely looks like a coin with one side sanded off. The side that was sanded off somehow got retoned to a similar brown as the other side. Probably put back into circulation and the sanding marks got worn off.
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Welcome Rocky to the forum

on the obverse there looks to be long scratches directional from forehead to shoulderish making me think as earlier mentioned that the reverse has been sanded off and or mechanically removed, IMO PMD.
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 Posted 01/15/2015  7:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add darryldarryl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi rocky and welcome to the Forum.

I am not trying to burst your bubble however there are some incredibly well informed error collectors here that are trying
to tell you something. I have to agree with them on their opinions.
Please, I hope you stick around as there's oodles of free learning information here.

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 Posted 01/15/2015  7:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PawnS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
so I can tell you it is real.


I want you to clap right now.

But you can only use one hand.

Think about it.
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 Posted 01/15/2015  7:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wazzappenning to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Please don't think people here are being rude or ridiculing your coin. I know you may be steamed because you really think it is a real error and people here are saying different. please do bring it to spp ottawa at the show. I'msure he will not steer you wrong.put it this way, if I looked at it and thought it was legitimate, I would make you an offer, so if he doesn't, then it probably isn't.
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OK... the obverse looks..... interesting. I really cannot say more without better photos of the obverse or seeing the coin in hand. From what I can see it is either:

  • centre broadstruck on a Type 1 planchet and a uniface strike

  • or

  • post-mint manipulation of the rim and reverse


Please drop by my table at Coin Expo, and we can discuss the coin in hand, possibly with several other error collectors and experts who tend to hang around my table.

Oh yeah - one more thing...

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 Posted 01/15/2015  8:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rocky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thank you all so much.I know what I have because of the weight of the coin and the composition of the coin itself when you look at the unstruck face. plus the thickness but like I know every body has and opinion. I have a few more coins.I will show you them later. thank you all so much. this also give myself and opportunity to learn more from all of you coin collectors. have a great one
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oh yes I will drop by your table. I have a gentleman who will be coming from Alberta as well to see the coin, he has a couple of collectors that wants to see this coin as well he wants to help me with the sale of this coin. he is very well known in the Coin World you will know him.
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Maybe someone can explain this to me. How is it even remotely possible for one side to be "unstruck?" The coin is "struck" by being sandwiched between two dies. If one side is "unstruck," to me, it would be impossible for the other side to be "struck." Like Pawn said, try clapping with one hand.

I understand that capped dies can cause something similar, but a dead smooth surface like that? I don't think so.
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 Posted 01/15/2015  9:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe it can happen if two coins get into the die bobby, but even then there would be some dis-figuration to the fields, as well as a fully upset rim
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Yeah, I guess your right Adam, if they lined up perfectly. Wonder if they would get fused together though?
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Just as a thought exercise:

What would mint employees have to do, to fabricate an error like this in the mint?
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pic of coins stacked together - top coin definitely thinner than the bottom.

pic of "non struck" side - even in low resolution it appears there are lines indicating sanding/grinding.

SPP is your guy - but I wouldn't get your hopes up
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Welcome to CCF Rocky
I'm leaning towards sanded off maybe old Magicians coin.
I too have to ask what happened to the rim? It was there when the planchet was blank both sides, I would assume.
Oh well anyway your taking it to the right place..SPPs table.
Thanks for sharing that interesting piece.
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Yes, I know both Alberta error collectors well. One of them is a member here (Zonad)... good luck.
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