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1987-D RPM?

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Hi all, is it the zinc rot playing tricks with my eyes, or am I seeing an RPM on this '87 Memorial?


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Have you checked at Coppercoins? That zinc rot will ruin collect ability to the greater extent. Might be a CC rotated MM.
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I don't think it's an RPM. It is zinc rot causing the MM to sink in and collapse,it's on the date also.
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I couldn't find a match on any of the online references that I know of, nor in any of my several reference books. That led me to lean toward zinc rot, but the separation on the mint mark wants me to believe it is an RPM. I hadn't noticed the date starting to resemble the mint mark. Perhaps it should weigh less if that much zinc has been lost?
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I am with John, not an RPM
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Split plating is the cause. Zinc rot is what your are seeing.
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So if I am understanding correctly, the plating split during strike, allowing the zinc to rot (all of which is obvious), and then as the zinc deteriorates it allows the copper plating to collapse creating a valley instead of a true RPM having true separation making more of a defined trench if you will..?
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I see this on a lot of the 80's cents on all the devices and used to swear I was seeing seperation/doubling on a lot of them
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That zinc rot will ruin collect ability to the greater extent.


Kinda tough to collect coins which have a finite lifespan, isn't it? At least, it is for whoever follows the first collector.
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I thought this was a rpm. It is split plating.

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You have to understand, the mint did not really perfect the minting process for zinc coins until around 1994. So many of the 1989 to 1993/4 cents seem to have a lot of plating issues.
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Yes, but zinc is still inferior compared to copper. It deteriorates rapidly, faster than copper. The "blue hue" is oxidized zinc.
The reason they put copper plating on to begin with is because they didn't want to shock the public with all that junk zinc.
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I think the mint mark punch was to blame for these on the Zincolns. When it was punched it left a small find on the area. That is probably what split the plating until the fin flatten. With the mint mark as part of the design, then this stopped happening. IMOHO
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Heh. The reason these are plated is because zinc is so reactive it's used as a sacrificial anode. It will corrode away on its' own just laying there.
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Yes, the punch stretched the thin layer of copper, splitting it. This allowed air to contact the zinc, hastening it's demise. Indeed it also corrodes just laying there. I metal detect as well as roll hunt. I dig up Indian Heads in much better condition than 2013 Zincos. They come up "chewed" in half.
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