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Valued Member
United States
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Where on this coin would I find the mint mark? Also, it seems to have some damage. Is that common or cause for concern as far as legitimacy of the coin? This is part of an inherited collection. Thank you.   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The mintmark B for the Bahia Mint is located in the center of the globe. These pieces were overstruck, mostly on Spanish American 8 Reales.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Very plesant example, actually.
Some of these are so lightly over-struck that you almost lose any of the design elements.
I do like the one you are presenting.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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I personally don't think this is damaged. This is overstruck over an older coin hence you see some unusual underlying elements which doesn't seem to belong there. However if you compare to some Spanish reales, it may make sense.
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Valued Member
 United States
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Thank you for the interesting information. It is always so interesting to see the different ways countries have approached money minting.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Nice coin. Struck over a Spanish American Portrait Dollar 8 Reales, you can clearly see one of the pillars from the shield side of the host coin starting at 11 o'clock n the globe side of the 960 Reis and extending cross to 1 o'clock. I am more interested in the mark at 9 0'clock on the globe side. Is that by chance an oriental chop mark? Could you post a close up photo clearly showing the mark? If it is a chop on a nice 960 Reis, that would add value in my humble opinion.
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Valued Member
United States
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jfransch - I am not sure if it is a chopmark, but here is a closeup.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I can't tell what it is. Very interesting
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The coin is a genuine Bahaia strike over a portrait 8 reales. That is the most common situation. Virgin planchets are actually scarcer than the overstrikes. I suggest you refer to David A. Levi's book "Os Recumbos de 960 Reis - The 960 Reis Overstrikes".
Since the R (Rio) and B (Bahaia) mint marks are located at the center of the globe - at a high spot - they tend to wear off.
Many people do not realize that for many of these coins the mint mark does not have to be visible to be identified. There are two clues.
1. Rio uses a numeric font for the denomination that has knobbed ends while Bahaia uses a font with simple pointed ends.
2. Rio uses trapezoids at the end of each arm of the Portuguese Cross while Bahaia uses a triangle shape.
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Valued Member
United States
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Swamperbob, thank you. As helpful as always.
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 Australia
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I'd closely examine the area around the name IOHANNES - that's about where the date of the undertype Spanish dollar ought to be, if it survived.
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