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On Cleaned Coins--Yea Or Strong Nay?

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 Posted 09/04/2016  1:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Even with a big reduction in price I would not be interested at all in a cleaned coin.
A cleaned coin will always be a problem coin and I would eventually replace it anyway so I would much rather wait until a nice problem coin made itself available to add to my collections than waste my time and money on some cheap cleaned coin
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 Posted 09/04/2016  3:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add garys64wildcat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have cleaned some old coins when I was 10 yrs old and didn't know better, but I do now.

I made my best score at a garage sale for $20, once on a batch of coins Indians, Large & Half Cents 3 cents silver, shield nickle 1/2 dime etc.

All were in a old style coffee can all rusty and had black dried paint goo and all cemented together and hard. Needed a chisel to get apart.
I used oven cleaner. It worked. the Shield was a AU 1879 or 80 key and sold it for $350 to the LCS.

I had to clean them just to see what I had
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 Posted 09/10/2016  1:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add giedrius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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maybe this is the only case, when you need clean the coin, you need for Your own collection.
In any other time „don't clean the coin" is like the „don't drink drive" - an axiom.
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 Posted 10/13/2016  1:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FordF150 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is wiping a coin with a soft cloth to remove the black crud considered a cleaned coin?
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 Posted 10/13/2016  1:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, because the action of wiping crud off a coin with a cloth will create microabrasions, aka "hairlines", on the coin. The softness of the cloth has no bearing on it, the crud/dirt/whatever on the coin is what creates the hairlines and the only way to safely remove said crud from a coin is with wet solvent methods that do not involve friction.
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 Posted 10/13/2016  4:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FordF150 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have cleaned coins by soaking them in Dawn dishwashing liquid and water and it seemed to do a good job and didn't hurt them .
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 Posted 10/21/2016  7:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinnerd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Now this is the thread id wished for others to review and take notes! A group of adults whom share a hobby but that shared hobby is done a little different by each of us. No bashing or criticizing and slamming one but yet, educating in an open discussion...

Hi everyone, I'm new to the forum, conversations like this thread are why I chose this website to educate myself and enjoy my silly personal hobby of collecting coins.

I have slowly found myself simply seeking the personal excitement at almost every register I make transactions at throughout the week. Most are your standard penny, nickle, and quarters but ever so often I find the halfs and dollars, but rare I find the super cool goodies of the circulated world, but they arise from time to time. besides those cash register events I ask when I'm at my local bank branch...i do not or have yet to find any coin shows to attend, shop and create lists of coins that are not going to be found while out n about...the other day, (prior to signing up on this awesome forum), I cleaned up and polished x2 nickels and x2 lincoln wheat pennies and sent a pic to my friend whom shunned my efforts of revealing the true glory of what the coin was.

I am wrong? I think not, but could be if done to certain coins perhaps.

In my life my small collection will truly only be for my enjoyment in the fact that first off its a hunt, and once I find the coin(s) I choose to keep from circulation I think to see them cleaned up and retired from roaming our country, second off, I honestly do not see many of these lower grade coins from the register being worth much more then face value.

i think its all in the eye of the beholder, just like building an old car...there will always be purists at every corner in life telling you how and why their way is the right way, but doesn't it really boil down to the meaning as to why us as individuals even collect anyways?

sorry the long reply but thought it might be relivant to share my .02 after reading through the entire thread.

thx!
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 Posted 10/21/2016  11:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chute72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The common belief in broadest terms is that there are two categories of coins one may be tempted to "clean."
One is anything that has chemically reacted with the metal. This leaves a patina or color change in milder cases, and corrosion and byproducts in extreme conditions.
With patina, it is best left alone, with corrosion, it is best thrown away.
The second condition is when a coin has dirt, grease and foreign deposits. Some collectors like to soak their coins in acetone to loosen and remove this foreign crud. Others feel it should remain as it adds character.
One of the products discussed here is Verdi Care. It is useful in neutralizing some reacting contaminates, and removing the by product of the reaction. But only in moderate cases and only in limited amounts.
Few people will agree with everything I've said, which is what makes for a useful discussion.
Also be sure to search this forum for other threads on cleaning, as this is something of a popular topic.
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 Posted 10/22/2016  12:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chute72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A belated "Welcome to the forum."
You may want to master some camera basics as they're useful in these discussions.
Here is one of my projects to remove the crud, keep the patina.

On-Cleaned-Coins--Yea-Or-Strong-Nay?

On-Cleaned-Coins--Yea-Or-Strong-Nay?

On-Cleaned-Coins--Yea-Or-Strong-Nay?
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 Posted 10/22/2016  01:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinnerd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow chute72 that's an awesome coin! And honestly I'd highly agree and wouldn't do anything more then your approach sir. I was just simply referring to the greatly high populated coins within most of the circulation of the mass produced stuff.

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 Posted 10/22/2016  01:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinnerd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is all I did. Just a few decent coins cleaned up n looking good. Value lost? Who really knows, I'm not selling lol

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What are some preferred methods of wiping down a coin prior to inserting into a flip? Removing finger oil residue n what not...
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10/22/2016 01:51 am
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 Posted 10/22/2016  02:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add joeysanders627 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I buy some cleaned coins, but that is not the norm for me. If it is a rare coin, I don't mind as much. Recent coins cannot be cleaned in any manner.
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 Posted 10/22/2016  02:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinnerd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As of now, the only coins I keep when I find them are 1964 and earlier and maybe some Presidential dollars, half and 1$ coins.
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 Posted 10/22/2016  11:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@coinnerd

Please make sure that none of your shining up efforts are done on coins that might have more value - including the varieties most newbies are relatively unaware of. found a whet penny RPM someone had taken a wire brush to and the scratches were even visible without magnification. A number of coins in the same roll had the wire brush treatment, but thankfully the 1941 DDO from that rol had not been touched.

Also, try to find a coin shop and take your shiny pennies with you. See if the coin store owner can show you one of the same kind which still has the original luster from the mint on it. You will see a shined-up coin will look very flat and lifeless next to the way it used to look when released from the mint.

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 Posted 10/22/2016  12:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinnerd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Will do Earle42, thank you sir.
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